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Old 05-25-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Mullman, have you totally lost your sense of humor. I was not blaming the locals for my lack of understanding of the word "shagging".

I'm sure his sense of humor is intact, but some things aren't funny. Natives and other southerners in Charlotte grow weary of people who treat our way of life and history as a joke. (not that YOU were doing that, just saying why he may have seemed humorless to you )
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:11 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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The "Jesus Saves" signs fate is being decided right now. Hoping to see that it is able to be saved just like the other historic signs around Charlotte lately. Charlotte has lost too much of its history to "progress" already!

A grassroots group, Save our Signs, is doing a great job at helping Charlotte to preserve these historical signs.


Historic Charlotte: News and Events

Last Ditch Effort to Save “Jesus Saves” Sign | FOX Charlotte | Local News

Garr Church turns 80. 1930 – 2010 « Save "Jesus Saves"
Please don't take this the wrong way. It's not intended as an insult.

I'd like to see a group intent on saving old buildings in Charlotte & after the fact they could try to salvage signs. If the building attached to a sign must go, why not take it to a local historical society?

I wish that I could have seen uptown Charlotte before the old buildings were all demolished & replaced with the new. I like local history & respect the history associated with old buildings. Is the building attached to the Jesus saves sign so dilapidated that it could not be gutted & repurposed?
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:15 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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Knoxville has a JFG sign, too and I wish we could figure out how to ours and all the other delightful reminders of the history of this region.

I love the old Krispy Kreme signs, too.

I would be THRILLED to find a "Joe's Tavern" type sign and would definitely want to save it.

LOVES: You mentioned that folks come here and their attitudes seem "soul-less." That is also reflected in how this city has quickly lost its "soul." Everyone agrees - Charlotte hardly has an identity any longer. Nice place to live - wouldn't want to visit there . . . some say. But lately, it seems to me that the things that make it a "nice place to live" are also vanishing.

Our city is quick to throw away its past - mainly b/c too many folks have moved here who would just as soon raze the whole of MECK and recreate it into some northeast city. PRETTY SAD. I have lived other places and I worked hard at fitting in, not trying to re-do, while all the time disparaging what was there when I arrived.

It is disrespectful to do otherwise.

I know that folks have all sorts of misconceptions about the South and about Southerners. But one of the reasons the South has always been known as a charming place is that Southerners revere the past and what our forefathers sacrificed so we would have the quality of life we enjoy now.

Charlotte's history goes back to pre-Revolutionary War days, yet few people even acknowledge that any longer. Everytime anyone refers to our city as the Queen City, that is acknowledgement of our past - but most people have never even taken the time to find out who Queen Charlotte was, or who founded this region of the state.

Pretty sad.

I want to preserve as much as we can at this point in time. Heck, so much has been lost already. Those of us willing to put some time and effort and $$ into preservation often scratch our heads in disbelief at the callous and dismissive attitude we get from newcomers.

Here's the down and dirty, folks: The natives here DO NOT CARE what twisted ideas you are attaching to such things as historic preservation of a sign that says "JESUS SAVES." That sign was there looooong b/f you came and it is part of the quirkiness of the region. When we see it, we may smile b/c someone wanted to send out a message so badly, they created that sign, and it lit up the night for decades, whether any of the folks SEEING IT were inclined to agree with the message or not.

That is the thing about the South. We CELEBRATE eccentricities here, whether it is eccentric people or eccentric architecture (or eccentric lifestyle). We don't care if you are a "character" (i.e. Richard Petty). Just as long as you are having a good time and enjoying your life, we are right there with ya. We CELEBRATE your success (i.e. Billy Graham) even if we are not into your message. Hometown boy makes good! We don't merely tolerate, we pat you on the back, even if we are not part of your cause. As long as what you profess or embrace is sincere, we are there with you. We may not participate (NASCAR) and we may not spend our dollars on it (Civil War Re-enactments) but we GET IT. You are doing YOUR THING and you are sincere so we are gonna smile even if we have no interest in your pursuit at all. Live and let live.

It seems too many folks who have moved here are combative - that is the CULTURE of the areas where they grew up. Just look at sports in the Northeast! Look at the rivalries with sports teams that lead to actual RIOTS. Good grief. I think some of the most intolerant areas of this country are found in the Northeast.

I am a Christian, but if there were a big lighted Menorah sign to save, I would be there for the cause. I don't have to espouse the sentiment behind the sign. That is what some of you are missing! It is the history of the region - good (agrarian life), bad (poverty) and ugly (slavery). It is what it is. We celebrate it here.

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Old 05-25-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Just put the sign aside, bulldozer the bloody place, and put the sign in the new building or donate it to some church.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: The Queen City
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I would love to see that sign go down. Not very good looking, and the message can be insulting to some.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:29 AM
 
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I would love to see that sign go down. Not very good looking, and the message can be insulting to some.
Oh good grief
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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Just put the sign aside, bulldozer the bloody place, and put the sign in the new building or donate it to some church.

A church DOES want the sign and hopefully it will be moved to southeast Charlotte soon.

Why aren't you people reading the links provided?
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:31 AM
 
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Knoxville has a JFG sign, too and I wish we could figure out how to ours and all the other delightful reminders of the history of this region.

I love the old Krispy Kreme signs, too.

I would be THRILLED to find a "Joe's Tavern" type sign and would definitely want to save it.

LOVES: You mentioned that folks come here and their attitudes seem "soul-less." That is also reflected in how this city has quickly lost its "soul." Everyone agrees - Charlotte hardly has an identity any longer. Nice place to live - wouldn't want to visit there . . . some say. But lately, it seems to me that the things that make it a "nice place to live" are also vanishing.

Our city is quick to throw away its past - mainly b/c too many folks have moved here who would just as soon raze the whole of MECK and recreate it into some northeast city. PRETTY SAD. I have lived other places and I worked hard at fitting in, not trying to re-do, while all the time disparaging what was there when I arrived.

It is disrespectful to do otherwise.

I know that folks have all sorts of misconceptions about the South and about Southerners. But one of the reasons the South has always been known as a charming place is that Southerners revere the past and what our forefathers sacrificed so we would have the quality of life we enjoy now.

Charlotte's history goes back to pre-Revolutionary War days, yet few people even acknowledge that any longer. Everytime anyone refers to our city as the Queen City, that is acknowledgement of our past - but most people have never even taken the time to find out who Queen Charlotte was, or who founded this region of the state.

Pretty sad.

I want to preserve as much as we can at this point in time. Heck, so much has been lost already. Those of us willing to put some time and effort and $$ into preservation often scratch our heads in disbelief at the callous and dismissive attitude we get from newcomers.


AMEN Ani, AMEN.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:32 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Knoxville has a JFG sign, too and I wish we could figure out how to ours and all the other delightful reminders of the history of this region.

I love the old Krispy Kreme signs, too.

I would be THRILLED to find a "Joe's Tavern" type sign and would definitely want to save it.

LOVES: You mentioned that folks come here and their attitudes seem "soul-less." That is also reflected in how this city has quickly lost its "soul." Everyone agrees - Charlotte hardly has an identity any longer. Nice place to live - wouldn't want to visit there . . . some say. But lately, it seems to me that the things that make it a "nice place to live" are also vanishing.

Our city is quick to throw away its past - mainly b/c too many folks have moved here who would just as soon raze the whole of MECK and recreate it into some northeast city. PRETTY SAD. I have lived other places and I worked hard at fitting in, not trying to re-do, while all the time disparaging what was there when I arrived.

It is disrespectful to do otherwise.

I know that folks have all sorts of misconceptions about the South and about Southerners. But one of the reasons the South has always been known as a charming place is that Southerners revere the past and what our forefathers sacrificed so we would have the quality of life we enjoy now.

Charlotte's history goes back to pre-Revolutionary War days, yet few people even acknowledge that any longer. Everytime anyone refers to our city as the Queen City, that is acknowledgement of our past - but most people have never even taken the time to find out who Queen Charlotte was, or who founded this region of the state.

Pretty sad.

I want to preserve as much as we can at this point in time. Heck, so much has been lost already. Those of us willing to put some time and effort and $$ into preservation often scratch our heads in disbelief at the callous and dismissive attitude we get from newcomers.
Ani, I think it's so sad that Charlotte doesn't have more from the Revolutionary War time period. Old buildings like that are human scale.

When I go to my doctor's office I go from Wilkinson to 277 to Kenilworth. Passing uptwn on 277 it's impressive, but once I'm in the city it's sort of forbidding, for lack of a better word.
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Old 05-25-2010, 10:39 AM
 
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I would love to see that sign go down. Not very good looking, and the message can be insulting to some.
I have read the Constitution, and 'freedom from being offended' is not listed.



What happened to live and let live?
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