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The scriptures teach that God is the savior of all people, not only of those that are believing.
"The Saviour" means he is the only saviour in existence, but the Bible is crystal clear that only those who believe in Him will have eternal life, and others will perish.
But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.
But yesterday you went to great lengths to prove that it is not God's desire that people obey these commands to love one another. Kind of makes you wonder why he gave the command in the first place
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According to traditional fundamental orthodox Christianity, God is so kind to the wicked and ungrateful that he tortures them for ever ...
According to UR God is so kind that He will torture the wicked only for a couple of million years.
"The Saviour" means he is the only saviour in existence, but the Bible is crystal clear that only those who believe in Him will have eternal life, and others will perish.
The Greek scriptures do not mention eternal life, they do mention the life of the age, or "Aionios Zoe" ...
And your saying that Jesus is the only savior does not discount the fact that the scriptures say that God is the Saviour of all people.
Only extremely confused and or otherwise brainwashed people would claim that God is the savior of people whom he has never and will never save. That is a self contradicting statement, an oxymoron, and the best proof that your teachings make no sense, or are nonsense.
Its like saying evil is good and good is evil, or light is dark and dark is light, or white is black and black is white.
If God does not save someone, then he is not their savior, period.
But yesterday you went to great lengths to prove that it is not God's desire that people obey these commands to love one another. Kind of makes you wonder why he gave the command in the first place
Doesn't make me wonder at all. Its just like how he knew that everyone who would ever exist(Christ excepted) would break the law which he gave, but that did not stop him from giving it.
The problem is you are unable to even comprehend the reasons why God does the things he does because you are still carnally minded. And though we are all still somewhat carnally minded, some of us are obviously more so than others.
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According to UR God is so kind that He will torture the wicked only for a couple of million years.
According to UR, God does not torture anyone at all, though he does correct them by chastising them ... God chastises all those whom he loves, and that means everyone, even you ... Does God torture you? When you chastise and discipline your children, are you torturing them(that is to say if you have children)? Or when your parents chastised/disciplined you, were they torturing you?
Only extremely confused and or otherwise brainwashed people would claim that God is the savior of people whom he has never and will never save. That is a self contradicting statement, an oxymoron, and the best proof that your teachings make no sense, or are nonsense.
Gee, thanks for your unkind and arrogant words. Like Roger, you just can't hide that UR "love".
Jesus is the saviour of the world just like Obama is the president of US. I did not vote for Obama and I reject his policies, but since there can only be one president, then Obama is it.
It is a title. Jesus, "the Saviour", Obama, "the president".
Here is a snippet from James' Coram's EONIAN FIRE AND JUDGING
"God disciplines those of whom He is fond (Heb.12:7-11; Rev.3:19), and He is fond of humanity (Titus 3:4). We can be sure that God will be doing all things well, exercising judgment founded upon His love." biblical studies: Eonian Fire and Judging
Last edited by rodgertutt; 12-20-2010 at 05:38 PM..
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The problem is you are unable to even comprehend the reasons why God does the things he does because you are still carnally minded. And though we are all still somewhat carnally minded, some of us are obviously more so than others.
Here is a good example. Jesus teaches us to be humble, yet you are arrogant. Are you saying that Jesus told you to 'be humble' but He does not desire you to be humble?
Trust me, He told you to be humble, because He wants you to be humble. He did not force you to disobey His order, you CHOSE to disobey. It is His permissive desire for us to be humble. It is permissive, because we have the option to disobey, like you just did.
Gee, thanks for your unkind and arrogant words. Like Roger, you just can't hide that UR "love".
Jesus is the saviour of the world just like Obama is the president of US. I did not vote for Obama and I reject his policies, but since there can only be one president, then Obama is it.
It is a title. Jesus, "the Saviour", Obama, "the president".
Your welcome ... ! Yes, "tough love" at that! I don't dance on eggshells, i call it like i see it ...
Obama is you president, regardless of whter you agree with him or not ...
And Jesus is the savior of all people, whether they are believing it or not ...
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Yes, "tough love" at that! I don't dance on eggshells, i call it like i see it ... 
