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Old 12-20-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The idea that God would sustain anyone alive in an inescapable state of everlasting suffering forever in fact IS blasphemy against the character of God.

That is why my comment was not deleted.
Calling Christian beliefs "blasphemy" on a Christian discussion board is a direct insult, and I don't think it should be tolerated, but that's just me.

 
Old 12-20-2010, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Lightbulb THE Doctrine of Endless Punishment

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Calling Christian beliefs "blasphemy" on a Christian discussion board is a direct insult, and I don't think it should be tolerated, but that's just me.
THE ORIGIN AND HISTORY OF THE Doctrine of Endless Punishment
The Origin and History of the Doctrine of Endless Punishment
 
Old 12-20-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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How about Universal Redemption?
 
Old 12-20-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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How about Universal Redemption?
UR? I do not believe in it, and have not found Biblical proof to support it.
 
Old 12-20-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Lightbulb Biblical proof to support ur

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UR? I do not believe in it, and have not found Biblical proof to support it.
I HAVE

A great sixteen chapter introductory series to ultimate reconciliation.
J. Preston Eby does a thorough job covering many aspects of the topic.
Fundamental reading for any person interested in studying universalism from a solid biblical perspective.
Highly Recommended!
Kingdom Bible Studies: J. Preston Eby, Kingdom of God; Saviour of The World

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Old 12-20-2010, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I HAVE

A great sixteen chapter introductory series to ultimate reconciliation.
J. Preston Eby does a thorough job covering many aspects of the topic.
Fundamental reading for any person interested in studying universalism from a solid biblical perspective.
Highly Recommended!
Kingdom Bible Studies: J. Preston Eby, Kingdom of God; Saviour of The World
Preston Eby....sigh....

...no thanks...

I have read enough of him.
 
Old 12-20-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Lightbulb God's punishment is always for man's cure.

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Preston Eby....sigh....

...no thanks...

I have read enough of him.
Any “hell” that anyone will experience the Bible calls "kolasis aionion," (Matthew 25:46) which means age-during corrective punishment.

Greek scholar William Barclay wrote concerning kolasis aionion (age-during corrective punishment) in Matthew 25:46

"The Greek word for punishment is kolasis, which was not originally an ethical word at all. It originally meant the pruning of trees to make them grow better. There is no instance in Greek secular literature where kolasis does not mean remedial punishment. It is a simple fact that in Greek kolasis always means remedial punishment. God's punishment is always for man's cure.

See what other Greek scholars say about it.
Chapter Eleven

It is limited in duration, and corrective in purpose.
AIÓN -- AIÓNIOS
Matthew 25:46 - “Aionian” or “Eternal”

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Old 12-20-2010, 04:30 PM
 
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Calling Christian beliefs "blasphemy" on a Christian discussion board is a direct insult, and I don't think it should be tolerated, but that's just me.
Apocatastasis(universal salvation) has been a Christian belief since the times of Christ and the apostles and was believed by the vast majority of Christians during the first 5 centuries of Christianity, yet most Christians now claim that it is a heresy, and that those of us who believe it are false prophets and teachers.

Does that insult you as well?

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Old 12-20-2010, 04:39 PM
 
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I don't believe in Hell. IMO, it's a misunderstanding of what Jesus actually taught. I came to this conclusion just because to me, eternal Hell and an all-loving God are not compatible beliefs, it's pretty obvious. If Hell exists than God is not all that nice after all.
Indeed ... Especially when you consider that Jesus specifically taught that God was kind to the wicked and ungrateful, and that God will have allpeople to be saved and is in fact the savior of all people ...


Luk 6:35
But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.


According to traditional fundamental orthodox Christianity, God is so kind to the wicked and ungrateful that he tortures them for ever ...
 
Old 12-20-2010, 04:41 PM
 
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Jesus preached about the concequence of rejection of God, but He stressed the point that He was here to save those who believed in Him.
The scriptures teach that God is the savior of all people, not only of those that are believing.
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