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...oops...you're right about the topic of this thread.
Does Scripture about the wild olive branch (Spiritual Israel) grafted into the Olive Tree (Natural Born Israel) ring a bell ? It's a fantastic read...you should try it out !
Well before we move to that let's get your answer about the first question. Do you admit that the 10 commandments were given to Israel alone?
Well before we move to that let's get your answer about the first question. Do you admit that the 10 commandments were given to Israel alone?
You have never heard me say anything to the contrary.
They were given for Israel then, and they are given for Israel now... the only difference is they were written upon 2 tablets of stone then, and they are now written upon the heart of His family, Israel, now ... of which I am a member ... called Spiritual Israel. Jesus Christ is my brother ... He is the First-Born of the children of God ... of which I am one .
...oops...you're right about the topic of this thread.
Does Scripture about the wild olive branch (Spiritual Israel) grafted into the Olive Tree (Natural Born Israel) ring a bell ? It's a fantastic read...you should try it out !
That means that the Gentles are grafted into the New Covenant of Eternal Life in Christ not the Old Covenant of a seemingly endless list of laws and Sabbaths.
As Paul says, he preached:
1COR 9:21 "To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law."
The Gentles did not observe Sabbath and neither did Paul ["as without law"] when among them. His purpose was teach them that the Grace of God through Christ would curb ungodly lusts. He was among them with the law of Christ and gained much traction for the Gospel because he did not lie, steal or commit fornication or adultery. He showed mercy and good judgment which are "the weighter matters of the law" and most of all he spoke like an Angel and all could see. He let his light shine!
That means that the Gentles are grafted into the New Covenant of Eternal Life in Christ not the Old Covenant of a seemingly endless list of laws and Sabbaths.
As Paul says, he preached:
1COR 9:21 "To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law."
The Gentles did not observe Sabbath and neither did Paul ["as without law"] when among them. His purpose was teach them that the Grace of God through Christ would curb ungodly lusts. He was among them with the law of Christ and gained much traction for the Gospel because he did not lie, steal or commit fornication or adultery. He showed mercy and good judgment which are "the weighter matters of the law" and most of all he spoke like an Angel and all could see. He let his light shine!
Romans 2:26If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised?
Romans 2:27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
Romans 2:28A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical.
Romans 11:17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root,
Philippians 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,
Ephesians 4:24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness
Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.
Titus 2:14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.
John 10:16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
1 Corinthians 12:13For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
In love...from a child of the family...a true brethren...of the household...grafted into the Israel...of The Living God,
Verna.
My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, AND DO IT." Luke 8:20-21
The heathen and disobedient Christians are NOT Christ’s Brethren.
....call me what you will...but I go by the name He has given to me.
AWESOME ISN'T IT ! The word of God ! \o/ Hallelujah !
Romans 2:26If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised?
Romans 2:27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
Romans 2:28A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical.
Romans 11:17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root,
Philippians 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,
Ephesians 4:24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness
Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.
Titus 2:14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.
John 10:16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
1 Corinthians 12:13For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
In love...from a child of the family...a true brethren...of the household...grafted into the Israel...of The Living God,
Verna.
My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, AND DO IT." Luke 8:20-21
The heathen and disobedient Christians are NOT Christ’s Brethren.
....call me what you will...but I go by the name He has given to me.
AWESOME ISN'T IT ! The word of God ! \o/ Hallelujah !
I love the word of God but I never say "spiritual Israel" in any that you posted.
I love the word of God but I never say "spiritual Israel" in any that you posted.
...well...this is something you're going to have to work out for yourself...your own salvation...with fear and trembling...then God will give you understanding.
...by the way...would you please clean up your post from all the [sizes] ...thank you.
Romans 2:26If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised?
Romans 2:27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
Romans 2:28A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical.
Romans 11:17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root,
Philippians 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,
Ephesians 4:24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness
Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.
Titus 2:14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.
John 10:16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
1 Corinthians 12:13For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
In love...from a child of the family...a true brethren...of the household...grafted into the Israel...of The Living God,
Verna.
My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, AND DO IT." Luke 8:20-21
The heathen and disobedient Christians are NOT Christ’s Brethren.
....call me what you will...but I go by the name He has given to me.
AWESOME ISN'T IT ! The word of God ! \o/ Hallelujah !
This is all good and true but it does not address the issues of what belongs to the OT vs what is of the NT. Those issues have already been made clear by myself and others. Yes all Christians are Jews at heart by being grafted in to the common wealth of Isreal but the New Testament Jew is not under the laws dominion either but under the wealth of blessings by Grace in Christ to love God and our fellow man.
JN 1:17 "For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." The Sabbath and Sabbaths are not requirements in Christ but you are free to do so and others are free not to. Spare me and others by using the laws to condemn but rather preach the blessings of Grace in Christ and let Him be the teacher in the "Way" that everyone should go. Or do you not believe that He is able to teach when man gets his mouth out of the way from shouting and coercing others with threats of God will not save unless you keep the Sabbath.
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