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Mary was not a sinner, she was without sin. She did not suffer death, she was assumed into heaven body and soul.
This is not scriptural and cannot be proven beyond personal belief. Mary inherited Adam's sin like every man and woman in the world. The reason why Jesus could be born of a virgin sinner is because baby's blood comes all from the father, not a drop from the mother. Jesus' blood is His Father's blood. Though the bible does not say when or how Mary died, it also does not say anything about her ascending to Heaven, being raptured or suffering anything less than natural death like everyone else. The only recorded rapture of a human before the return of Jesus is Elijah. If Mary had been raptured, it would've been recorded in my opinion. Like everyone God chose in the bible to further His plan, they all died, except Elijah.
Also one more thing I want to mention. You say Mary was without sin. If Mary was without sin then Jesus' blood is now common and no longer unique. A sacrifice eternally valuable to God and without sin must be sacrificed to atone for all the sins of humanity and it must be unique. Mary was born from seed of man therefore she inherited Adam's sin. Any belief apart from this is personal, not scriptural.
The reason why Jesus could be born of a virgin sinner is because baby's blood comes all from the father, not a drop from the mother. Jesus' blood is His Father's blood.
Where in blue tunket does THAT information come from? You MUST know something about biology.
This is not scriptural and cannot be proven beyond personal belief. Mary inherited Adam's sin like every man and woman in the world. The reason why Jesus could be born of a virgin sinner is because baby's blood comes all from the father, not a drop from the mother. Jesus' blood is His Father's blood. Though the bible does not say when or how Mary died, it also does not say anything about her ascending to Heaven, being raptured or suffering anything less than natural death like everyone else. The only recorded rapture of a human before the return of Jesus is Elijah. If Mary had been raptured, it would've been recorded in my opinion. Like everyone God chose in the bible to further His plan, they all died, except Elijah.
Also one more thing I want to mention. You say Mary was without sin. If Mary was without sin then Jesus' blood is now common and no longer unique. A sacrifice eternally valuable to God and without sin must be sacrificed to atone for all the sins of humanity and it must be unique. Mary was born from seed of man therefore she inherited Adam's sin. Any belief apart from this is personal, not scriptural.
You miss something very important. Fundamentalist Protestants base everything on the Bible.
Catholicism is also based on the Bible, but there is also passed tradition, many which were passed on before the Bible was the official book of Christians. Protestants always say if it is not in the Bible it did not happen. The Catholic church is much more and is based on tradition. The theology of Mary evolved over the centuries.
You will say that God wrote the Bible, but in fact the Bible was written by mere mortal humans and hence is full of errors. You should know God is smarter than that.
I understand how not accepting the Bible as written by God destroys the religion of many because the religion is solely based on the Bible. If you remove the Bible these religions have no leg to stand on. I get that.
The reason why Jesus could be born of a virgin sinner is because baby's blood comes all from the father, not a drop from the mother. Jesus' blood is His Father's blood.
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Originally Posted by nateswift
Where in blue tunket does THAT information come from? You MUST know something about biology.
This explains a lot, Nate . . . I am afraid any efforts to correct the misunderstandings about Catholic beliefs (or anything else) in these discussions are doomed to failure. Perhaps the lurkers will learn something from our efforts.
You miss something very important. Fundamentalist Protestants base everything on the Bible.
Catholicism is also based on the Bible, but there is also passed tradition, many which were passed on before the Bible was the official book of Christians. Protestants always say if it is not in the Bible it did not happen. The Catholic church is much more and is based on tradition. The theology of Mary evolved over the centuries.
You will say that God wrote the Bible, but in fact the Bible was written by mere mortal humans and hence is full of errors. You should know God is smarter than that.
I understand how not accepting the Bible as written by God destroys the religion of many because the religion is solely based on the Bible. If you remove the Bible these religions have no leg to stand on. I get that.
How convenient. You just do what you want and after a while you say well it's a tradition so it must be right!
You miss something very important. Fundamentalist Protestants base everything on the Bible.
Catholicism is also based on the Bible, but there is also passed tradition, many which were passed on before the Bible was the official book of Christians. Protestants always say if it is not in the Bible it did not happen. The Catholic church is much more and is based on tradition. The theology of Mary evolved over the centuries.
You will say that God wrote the Bible, but in fact the Bible was written by mere mortal humans and hence is full of errors. You should know God is smarter than that.
I understand how not accepting the Bible as written by God destroys the religion of many because the religion is solely based on the Bible. If you remove the Bible these religions have no leg to stand on. I get that.
The bible is the word of God. Yes He Himself did not literally write every word in it but those who did, did so through the Holy Spirit. The beautiful thing about the holy bible is that it is all consistent from beginning to end. There are absolutely no contradictions in it. With something as so simple yet so complex as the bible, it cannot be just the work of man's mind. My problem with Catholicism is it disqualifies so many people from the grace of God. Salvation is a gift of God's grace and a blood bought right to every believer. Catholicism tells people to make yourself worthy enough to do this or that pertaining to God. Jesus' sacrifice made us all righteous in the eyes of God. That is Jesus' righteousness He gave to us, not our own. You can't qualify yourself anymore than Jesus has already qualified us to receive from God. That is where Catholicism misses the truth.
Where in blue tunket does THAT information come from? You MUST know something about biology.
Ask any doctor, biologist, anatomist or anyone that studies the human body and all of them will tell you that not one drop of a new born baby's blood came from the mother. That is why Jesus was born of a virgin mother so His blood would all come from the Father.
Ask any doctor, biologist, anatomist or anyone that studies the human body and all of them will tell you that not one drop of a new born baby's blood came from the mother.
So incorrect it's breathtaking. Sorry. Further discussion would be futile until you learn how the natural science called "biology" works.
So incorrect it's breathtaking. Sorry. Further discussion would be futile until you learn how the natural science called "biology" works.
Not one drop of the mother's blood is in the baby. This has been proven scientifically.
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