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even though gays are not biologically capable of sexual attraction to the opposite sex.
That is so funny when I hear people say that. I can't tell you how many "lesbians" I've slept with! I'm sure you'll probably say I'm lying, but I know I can't be the only guy in here that has had the same experiences.
There-in lies the conundrum. These people only know the gay men who _are flashy and in your face and crass_. Therefore it is this they build their impression of gay people around.
The majority of gay men are your pastors - your teachers - your police and army officers - the people handling your food at the deli and packing your bags at the market. They are under the radar. People do not know they are gay because they do not flaunt it - make a deal of it - or any of the things the anti gays associate with it.
And because they are invisible they do not get incorporated into the image. How could they? So the anti gays continue to build their image of gay people on the only gays they know - the crass and in your face ones.
So because these people stay under the radar they do not get to change the image of gay people. If they go above the radar and contrive to make themselves visible and noticable howeveer they will be decried for this too.
It really is "Damned if you do and damned if you don't" is it not?
The laugh comes from the fact that the same anti gay religious people will decry us judging religious pastors and preachers based on the insane ramblings of a handful of them - like the recent priest in Ireland informing all catholics that Yoga is sinful - because in _just the same way_ the majority of these priests and pastors are under the radar moderate and quite normal people. It is the vocal and in your face loons that ruin it for the rest of them.
Nobody is arguing what sexual orientation comes from. That honestly is an irrelevant argument that we are not going to agree on. The question that was asked to you is do you have some kind of insight that we don't have. If you claim that the Bible is man-made, and then you say that Moses is the only one that talked to God, then how do you know that to be true? Are you suggesting that there is truth in the Bible or are you saying that you have some supernatural ability to know what Moses did thousands of years ago?
I thought it was pretty obvious, don't you think? I know it is assumed one has to be a devout believer in order to be anointed into the privilege of responding in the Christian forum, but what I'm clearly indicating, is that like many people, perhaps most, I speak from an Agnostic point of view, however, if one follows the bible, then this is what one should realize. Scripture is often corrupted, and selectively misinterpreted. Pretty simple, don't you think?
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I was never aware that there is a such thing as a "worst sin". Again where are you getting your information? Do you believe in the Bible? Part of it? None of it?
Again Mosaic Law. Do you understand what the Mosaic Law is? You keep repeating it and I have said that the scripture you are applying does not apply to the New Covenant.
That's OK, nobody is perfect. You can read up on Lucifer in your spare time. As far as the "Mosaic Law" this archaic diatribe is used to rationalize, and justify the oppression of gays, today.
The laugh comes from the fact that the same anti gay religious people will decry us judging religious pastors and preachers based on the insane ramblings of a handful of them - like the recent priest in Ireland informing all catholics that Yoga is sinful - because in _just the same way_ the majority of these priests and pastors are under the radar moderate and quite normal people. It is the vocal and in your face loons that ruin it for the rest of them.
I'm not some hard-core religious nut, but from a purist Christian point of view, yoga is sinful. I don't know this Catholic priests reasons for saying that, as I am unfamiliar with the story, but yoga was a form of eastern religion expression. Since Christians are supposed to stay free from any other types of religion, that indeed does make yoga sinful. The blunt truth of the matter is neither Christ, nor any of Christians of his time would even recognize Christianity now. It's been so watered-down and compromised so as to accommodate various peoples who want to practice a form of Christianity, but still want to do what they want to do. It was never meant to be that way, and anyone who's ever actually picked up a Bible knows this, yet we all go on pretending for the sake of political correctness. Hey, I'm no better and I sin with the best of them, but I don't go around trying to make it religious system fit my inability to follow it.
I'm not some hard-core religious nut, but from a purist Christian point of view, yoga is sinful. I don't know this Catholic priests reasons for saying that, as I am unfamiliar with the story, but yoga was a form of eastern religion expression. Since Christians are supposed to stay free from any other types of religion, that indeed does make yoga sinful. The blunt truth of the matter is neither Christ, nor any of Christians of his time would even recognize Christianity now. It's been so watered-down and compromised so as to accommodate various peoples who want to practice a form of Christianity, but still want to do what they want to do. It was never meant to be that way, and anyone who's ever actually picked up a Bible knows this, yet we all go on pretending for the sake of political correctness. Hey, I'm no better and I sin with the best of them, but I don't go around trying to make it religious system fit my inability to follow it.
I'm not some hard-core religious nut, but from a purist Christian point of view, yoga is sinful. I don't know this Catholic priests reasons for saying that, as I am unfamiliar with the story, but yoga was a form of eastern religion expression. Since Christians are supposed to stay free from any other types of religion, that indeed does make yoga sinful. The blunt truth of the matter is neither Christ, nor any of Christians of his time would even recognize Christianity now. It's been so watered-down and compromised so as to accommodate various peoples who want to practice a form of Christianity, but still want to do what they want to do. It was never meant to be that way, and anyone who's ever actually picked up a Bible knows this, yet we all go on pretending for the sake of political correctness. Hey, I'm no better and I sin with the best of them, but I don't go around trying to make it religious system fit my inability to follow it.
"yoga is sinful"??
Please show me where it says that in the Bible?
For many people yoga is simply a great physical exercise to obtain and maintain flexibility and optimal good health.
For many people yoga is simply a great physical exercise to obtain and maintain flexibility and optimal good health.
Some people may see it that way, but if you do research, Yoga is based on a Hindu religious practice. We are called to be set apart from the world and to flee from stumbling blocks and false idols. If Jesus were her, I don't think He would partake in an activity that is so closely connected with false gods.
I thought it was pretty obvious, don't you think? I know it is assumed one has to be a devout believer in order to be anointed into the privilege of responding in the Christian forum, but what I'm clearly indicating, is that like many people, perhaps most, I speak from an Agnostic point of view, however, if one follows the bible, then this is what one should realize. Scripture is often corrupted, and selectively misinterpreted. Pretty simple, don't you think?
Not really. You are free to believe what you want, but the question has been presented to you, how do you know that to be true? How do you know that scripture is corrupted?
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That's OK, nobody is perfect. You can read up on Lucifer in your spare time. As far as the "Mosaic Law" this archaic diatribe is used to rationalize, and justify the oppression of gays, today.
You clearly have no rebuttal. You are using the same argument over and over and it doesn't support your point at all.
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