40 Questions for Christians Now Waving Rainbow Flags (Leviticus, lukewarm, believers)
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I supported the LGBT community, since I was already a part of it, technically. But the real turning point came when I was attending a "progressive" church that basically denounced that gays could even have a "real" relationship to start with, and I walked out of the church.
Twin, it sounds like you're talking about precisely people like you. People who do evil will not inherit the kingdom of God. Why do they say "do not be deceived?" It is because people who do evil are people who publicly call themselves Christians, and yet do evil against their fellow man. I've seen a few in my day, little old ladies that judge others as sinful because they read the Bible more. Trendy young people who like "praise" worship but when someone comes to them with a real problem, they turn them away. People who fixate on their own fears, and cannot love someone different from them, because they are afraid they will "catch" gayness.
Which is more important, a person who claims to do the will of God, or the one who does it? Doing evil is not drinking, smoking, swearing, and homosexual sex. Evil is rape, murder, hatred, injustice, isolating people, and forcing people into crime or poverty to survive.
I see you have edited the last post to include more, so...
God the Holy Spirit inspired the words "do not be deceived: " for a very good reason, because the opposing opinion is not the truth and has serious eternal consequences if followed \ listened to.
I see you have edited the last post to include more, so...
God the Holy Spirit inspired the words "do not be deceived: " for a very good reason, because the opposing opinion is not the truth and has serious eternal consequences if followed \ listened to.
You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
God via Paul in Romans 2:1
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Just don't continue to do so.
1) and as usual taking text out of context and not looking at the qualifier ... it's not judging per say but judging a wrongful actions while "do(ing) the same thing" .. for example to condemn not returning books to the library and yet you don't return books and have past due fines.
... whew, now you need-int use that sound bit anymore where I'm concerned when I repeat what God condemns concerning this topic.
2) Jesus makes very plain the necessity to judge others in Matthew 7:6, and assures in Matthew 7:16 -20 "judging" is the only way possible to recognize "that by their fruit (lifestyle including teaching) we will recognize false prophets"
I see you have edited the last post to include more, so...
God the Holy Spirit inspired the words "do not be deceived: " for a very good reason, because the opposing opinion is not the truth and has serious eternal consequences if followed \ listened to.
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden
Then why are you?
Because "the HolyScriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus."
I knew that a rational response was not going to happen, but you have to try. How can you talk about love to people who don't know how it works?
How ... by pointing to the cross of Christ and what took place there. John 3:15-36
but realize that Jesus doesn't just simply leave it at "love ..that's all folks", he also said to the same woman: "now go and leave your life of sin". Loving God has a reactionary component to it, one that conforms to Godly living.
Which is why Paul doesn't leave it as "Love .. that's all folks" in Colossians 3:5.
Neither does John leave it as "Love .. that's all folks" as inspired by God in 1 John 3:8-9
How ... by pointing to the cross of Christ and what took place there. John 3:15-36
but realize that Jesus doesn't just simply leave it at "love ..that's all folks", he also said to the same woman: "now go and leave your life of sin". Loving God has a reactionary component to it, one that conforms to Godly living.
Which is why Paul doesn't leave it as "Love .. that's all folks" in Colossians 3:5.
Neither does John leave it as "Love .. that's all folks" as inspired by God in 1 John 3:8-9
Absolutely correct, twin, but you miss an important element: love is the basis for all of that action, You work not from a set of rules, but from a concern for the well-being of everyone in any action under consideration. "The letter kills, but the spirit gives life." That and many other references should give you a strong idea that just quoting or using your understanding of the words without that concern is going to lead you wrong. When you have that concern, you find out, using any tool required what really IS the best for everyone in the situation at hand. Whose benefit are you concerned with, twin, and how does that work?
gays are not the problem or issue never were
Evil has no gender no Color no sexual orientation no religion either
evil can change form any time
Here is the issue
At what point did you believe the lie that there is no evil and no sin?
At what point did you come to believe the victim is guilty of the crime
If we hope to escape destruction we must own our stuff and stop flipping it and spinning it
gays are not the problem or issue never were
Evil has no gender no Color no sexual orientation no religion either
evil can change form any time
Here is the issue
At what point did you believe the lie that there is no evil and no sin?
At what point did you come to believe the victim is guilty of the crime
If we hope to escape destruction we must own our stuff and stop flipping it and spinning it
At what point did you start to believe god-n-the-tiny-box was OPPRESSIVE, HATEFUL, VENGEFUL, JEALOUS, and other wise BIGOTED??
Because "the HolyScriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus."
Subjective, not all become wise just because they quote their Bibles.
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