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Old 03-28-2016, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I am just nearly speechless, that you think that hospitality was the issue in the text in Matt. you quoted, and that is what you are using to determine why Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Just when you think you've heard every loophole seeking to get out of the righteousness of G-d and HIS ways....
The meaning behind the dusting of the feet and the coming judgment is simple: the Gospel was preached, and rejected and the wrath of God remains on those who reject it.

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.

 
Old 03-28-2016, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Well, what more can be said?

But, I've no doubt that someone will . . .
Yeah, there's always more to be said.

How about a reminder that the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah are not the POINT of the story?

Change the sin to...oh, I don't know...plain old murder or something. That's not what matters. What matters is that a) the cities have to be destroyed in a frightening and widespread manner, causing the need for Lot and his family to flee to somewhere remote, and b) Lot's wife has to be removed from the scene so that we end up with Lot and his two daughters isolated from other people, so that c) the daughters will become impregnated by their father--GIVING BIRTH TO THE FOREFATHERS OF THE AMMONITES AND MOABITES.

That these enemies of Israel are descended from two inbred bastards is the whole point of this story. The rest is just how you get there.
 
Old 03-28-2016, 07:57 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Yes, well He certainly used them to reveal spiritual truths when He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, didn't He? Peace
Yet, God handed out NO punishment for David and Jonathon's LOVE affair?

Guess God will have to apologize to Sodom if She let David's homosexual tryst slide..
 
Old 03-28-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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The meaning behind the dusting of the feet and the coming judgment is simple: the Gospel was preached, and rejected and the wrath of God remains on those who reject it.

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.

BINGO. I think we've reached the point where the blind stay blind, the dumb stay dumb, the deaf stay deaf, and the lame stay lame = he that is filthy, let him be filthy still. The cup of iniquity is almost full. May He have mercy on us all. Peace
 
Old 03-28-2016, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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BINGO. I think we've reached the point where the blind stay blind, the dumb stay dumb, the deaf stay deaf, and the lame stay lame = he that is filthy, let him be filthy still. The cup of iniquity is almost full. May He have mercy on us all. Peace
Yes, it seems to be a matter of realizing to which party you belong and why.
 
Old 03-28-2016, 10:08 AM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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The meaning behind the dusting of the feet and the coming judgment is simple: the Gospel was preached, and rejected and the wrath of God remains on those who reject it.

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
Amen, sad, yet true !

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BINGO. I think we've reached the point where the blind stay blind, the dumb stay dumb, the deaf stay deaf, and the lame stay lame = he that is filthy, let him be filthy still. The cup of iniquity is almost full. May He have mercy on us all. Peace
It sure looks that way !

It is God who has deluded their hearts,
2 Thessalonians 2:11 (NASB)
For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false.

2Thessalonians especially chpt. 2 is truly speaking of what we are experiencing these days .
The great apostasy has fallen upon our time rapidly and one can witness this just by lurking and reading in this forum what is said to be the Truth of God ! One can read more and more of all the hate and denial of His Holy Scripture . The denial of His crucifixion, resurrection, etc., etc. and especially the denial of sin, !

Yes, we are living in a time that it is coming to the end of the church age and our Lord and Savior is soon to return, amen !

And we will be celebrating Easter all the time not just once a year \0/ hallelujah !!

"May He have mercy on us all." \0/ Amen !
 
Old 03-28-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Yes, it seems to be a matter of realizing to which party you belong and why.
Seems to be something for Moderator cut: name removed to contemplate also. Just how do you test your perceptions of what scripture means besides comparing with your interpretations of other scriptures. What ruler do you use the check your measuring stick?

Last edited by mensaguy; 03-28-2016 at 10:42 AM.. Reason: name removed
 
Old 03-28-2016, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Amen, sad, yet true !



It sure looks that way !

It is God who has deluded their hearts,
2 Thessalonians 2:11 (NASB)
For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false.

2Thessalonians especially chpt. 2 is truly speaking of what we are experiencing these days .
The great apostasy has fallen upon our time rapidly and one can witness this just by lurking and reading in this forum what is said to be the Truth of God ! One can read more and more of all the hate and denial of His Holy Scripture . The denial of His crucifixion, resurrection, etc., etc. and especially the denial of sin, !

Yes, we are living in a time that it is coming to the end of the church age and our Lord and Savior is soon to return, amen !

And we will be celebrating Easter all the time not just once a year \0/ hallelujah !!

"May He have mercy on us all." \0/ Amen !
We can do that now, at least I do.
 
Old 03-28-2016, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Old 03-28-2016, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
The meaning behind the dusting of the feet and the coming judgment is simple: the Gospel was preached, and rejected and the wrath of God remains on those who reject it.

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
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BINGO. I think we've reached the point where the blind stay blind, the dumb stay dumb, the deaf stay deaf, and the lame stay lame = he that is filthy, let him be filthy still. The cup of iniquity is almost full. May He have mercy on us all. Peace
Oh my gosh ...and this is coming from someone who claims not to be a fundamentalist . . .
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