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You lied in the post I quoted. It seems you are just into denying reality.
Dear Finn,
I put your words into context. You are an admitted sinner. Sinning is a terrible thing for you. So much so, it requires forgiveness and redemption.
You expect me to prove what God already knows. You are calling God a liar. I have no doubt about your relationship with God and your sinning ways. You are an admitted sinner. I have no reason to believe other wise.
You misrepresent what I said. Christians don't have "permission" to sin. Repentance means turning away from sin. Even so, it is impossible to be sinless in the flesh.
No jimmie, I put you in context. You are the one sinning, over and over again because you have no choice. It seems to be in your flesh. You are the one having to repent.
You give yourself permission by giving yourself the excuse of, " I can't help it, it is in my flesh." You do this over and over and never stop sinning.
I think it boils down to the "I'm a good person, I don't sin" argument where people are offended by the suggestion they need a savior to forgive their sins. Lot of us have been on that path.
Dear Finn,
I already have God. We are old friends. Is there more?
You still need saving because you keep sinning, over and over. Sinning is a terrible thing. You keep damaging yourself over, and over ,and over again. I understand it is in your flesh or something.
You do not offend me Finn. Is that your intention? You are not capable of offending me.
I think it boils down to the "I'm a good person, I don't sin" argument where people are offended by the suggestion they need a savior to forgive their sins. Lot of us have been on that path.
It seems that it is you that is offended by those who don't sin. Could you at least ask what Ronk's secret to a life without sin is, rather than "you're a sinner the bible says you are and I know you can't live a life with out sin because I try it every day and fail every day" if you ask nicely she might even quote the bible you "think' you believe" in to prove that you can. She might bake you a cake too with "I don't sin Anymore" on it if you ask that nicely too.
I told you earlier on(yesterday) that I walk in unconditional forgiveness towards myself and the world...... meaning sin is never an issue to me even if I do miss the mark. It is only fundamentalists that waste their time on sin, what is sin and what isn't, who is a sinner and who isn't........ the believer invests is THINKING into what is righteous and that is their only concern.
I can do all this through him who gives me strength(except what the fundamentalist says I can't do).
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—THINK about such things.
You expect me to prove what God already knows. You are calling God a liar. I have no doubt about your relationship with God and your sinning ways. You are an admitted sinner. I have no reason to believe other wise.
No, I do not need you to prove anything. You keep repeating yourself, but no one has asked you to prove anything. Feel free to make your claims. You might as well tell me you never need to go to the bathroom, and while I know it is not true, I won't ask you to prove it. If you know the truth, you don't need the proof. However, when you lied, you provided all the proof without anyone having to ask for it. It was only a matter of time.
No, I do not need you to prove anything. You keep repeating yourself, but no one has asked you to prove anything. Feel free to make your claims. You might as well tell me you never need to go to the bathroom, and while I know it is not true, I won't ask you to prove it. If you know the truth, you don't need the proof. However, when you lied, you provided all the proof without anyone having to ask for it. It was only a matter of time.
Dear Finn,
You keep telling me I sin. You keep calling God a liar.
No need to prove you are a sinner. I believe you. You keep saying you sin. Over and over again. I do not need the gory details of your sin.
I would never discuss my bathroom habits with you, yet you bring it into the conversation. You call me a liar, and now you are curious about my bathroom habits. The whole, "You could tell me", thing is you having this imaginary conversation with yourself about my bathroom habits.
It was only a matter of time before you bring bathroom habits into a conversation about the extent of your sin and the fact I do not sin.
You keep telling me I sin. You keep calling God a liar.
No, that is not true. You are the one who lied, not God.
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No need to prove you are a sinner. I believe you. You keep saying you sin. Over and over again. I do not need the gory details of your sin.
I had no plans on offering you any proof. I have not asked you to prove something I already know, and I was not going to offer proof for something everyone already knows. What's the point?
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I would never discuss my bathroom habits with you, yet you bring it into the conversation. You call me a liar, and now you are curious about my bathroom habits. The whole, "You could tell me", thing is you having this imaginary conversation with yourself about my bathroom habits. It was only a matter of time before you bring bathroom habits into a conversation about the extent of your sin and the fact I do not sin.
This is not true either. I am sorry you didn't get the point.
I told you earlier on(yesterday) that I walk in unconditional forgiveness towards myself and the world...... meaning sin is never an issue to me even if I do miss the mark. It is only fundamentalists that waste their time on sin, what is sin and what isn't, who is a sinner and who isn't........ the believer invests is THINKING into what is righteous and that is their only concern.
I can do all this through him who gives me strength(except what the fundamentalist says I can't do).
Finally, brothers and sisters,whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—THINK about such things.
They just don't get what it means to enjoy the liberty of Christ, pcamps. We are to have life and have it more abundantly because we are reconciled to God and God is NOT counting our sins against us. So what do the fundamentalists do???? THEY count our sins against us and make life miserable for themselves and others. IF we try to love God and each other every day and repent when we don't we will NOT sin, but if we do the repentance covers it. It bears repeating, pcamps: "whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—THINK about such things"
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