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Old 08-29-2016, 10:49 PM
 
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This is the Christian forum.

Athiest.
Move on, thankyou.
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Old 08-30-2016, 03:06 AM
 
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The Bible is the living Word of God. It will appear foolish to the unsaved and spiritually dead.
Nice of you to ignore everything I just said and then claim the exact opposite. I am not at all religious, in any way, let alone the ways YOU would consider "saved" or "spiritual". Yet as I JUST said, but you ignored, the Bible is interesting, inspirational, beautiful literature, which I seem to get more from than many people who claim to be Christian.

Perhaps the way forward is to tell us just what YOU think rather than go around telling us what you think other people think. Let THEM tell us that.

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This amazing book even predicts that people like atheists will mock us!
Nothing about that is amazing or worthy of the term "prediction" though. If you espouse something that will seem ridiculous to people, then expecting to be mocked for it is par for the course and to be expected. Acting like this is a prediction is pretty much stretching the meaning of the term. Acting like that prediction is "amazing" however is real comedy. If I started standing around street corners and telling passers by that the earth is flat, I would predict too I would be mocked for it. Would you think me or my position "amazing" because I accurately predicted that?

No, you would not, and you know as well as I do why it is not amazing.
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:29 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Sanctioned RAPE by a god?????
I prefer to say the biblical writer claimed that Moses, ALLEGEDLY speaking for the biblical god, commanded genocide and rape, assuming these biblical accounts are true. Then again, such "acts of war" were/are commonplace so it stands to reason such things may have happened in that wild, crazy, superstitious world of that day. Claim Moses, a so-called holy man of God, commanded it and it becomes justified.
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:58 AM
 
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Has God changed in the last 2,000 years, since Jesus came as the representation of God? If so, what changed?
The OT god of vengeance, oppression and hate has become a God of LOVE, MERCY and JUSTICE.
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Old 08-30-2016, 06:02 AM
 
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I prefer to say the biblical writer claimed that Moses, ALLEGEDLY speaking for the biblical god, commanded genocide and rape, assuming these biblical accounts are true. Then again, such "acts of war" were/are commonplace so it stands to reason such things may have happened in that wild, crazy, superstitious world of that day. Claim Moses, a so-called holy man of God, commanded it and it becomes justified.
No doubt rape and other atrocities happened, but they happened with the blessings of the OT god, for GOD DIRECTED MOSES....
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Old 08-30-2016, 06:03 AM
 
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Tag.
This is the Christian forum.

Athiest.
Move on, thankyou.


FLASH--this is the CHRISTIANITY forum.

CULTISTS MOVE ON....PLEASE!
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Old 08-30-2016, 06:06 AM
 
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2000 year old words are remarkably relevant today. David Ramsey built an empire teaching people how to debt free straight from the wisdom of Proverbs. Just think of how many people fail at this one:


"It's stupid to guarantee someone else's loan."

Proverbs 17:18
Ramsey is a modern PHARISEE teaching PROSPERITY GOSPEL and GREED.

And yet, capitalist society would have nothing if the banks did not guarantee loans.

If Proverbs 17:18 is indeed your god's words--THEN SOCIALISM is the only answer.
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Old 08-30-2016, 06:09 AM
 
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Of course not because the Bible never promotes such things.
GOD DIRECTED...how many times is this phrase used prior to Israel committing genocide, female subjugation, and being told to destroy another community because they were NOT like Israel (racism.)
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Old 08-30-2016, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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GOD DIRECTED...how many times is this phrase used prior to Israel committing genocide, female subjugation, and being told to destroy another community because they were NOT like Israel (racism.)
The rose colored glasses they wear must be very thick.
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Old 08-30-2016, 06:39 AM
 
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The rose colored glasses they wear must be very thick.
THICK? It is deeper than glasses--it is a thought process so ingrained, they are able to JUSTIFY the WORSE atrocities DIRECTED by their god and not even realize there is NO difference between many of those acts and what the worse serial killer in history had done.

I once had an evangelical justify the killings at the schools as his god's way of preventing some of the children from becoming the next Hitler or sinning so greatly the child would be LOST and DAMNED for eternity.

When I applied his logic to ABORTIONS, he went ballistic screaming why would his god kill innocent children who never had a chance to decide if they wanted to die??????

Innocent children who never decided to be shot 5--15 times with an assault weapon was acceptable, but a woman making a choice was NOT???

THIS IS WHY MY VOICE WILL BE HEARD--CRYING FROM THE WILDERNESS....

this will be the FINAL FRONTIER for humanity.

Either rationale HUMANITY wins or we will be eliminated by the religious zealots and Jesus will continue to weep.
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