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It is about love. The only prize worth being concerned with, to me, is the fullness of God/love experienced and expressed within and through us. Unless and until you can show how your worship of and obsession with the law is bringing that to fruition, it is not meaningful to me. And, if you can't say it clear and simple, without bible-code, I will assume that it is not meaningful to me. Nothing personal -- you and I have discussed this at length and we know where the other stands. I love ya.
I'll leave the rest of your post for those who are interested.
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Originally Posted by Hanni
the covenant of Noah and how the world is under it, they love, they saved.
But these same Gentiles who see the simple truth of a broad salvation, don't let them weep and gnash their teeth when they see something more. Just because people refuse to see the race and the prize doesn't mean there isn't a race to gain a better resurrection.
Let those who know the truth pick up their cross to walk as Jesus did in the law, and let them sell all they own to give to the poor that they may achieve a better resurrection, and when the day comes for the works of all men to be tested, let those who are neither cold or hot not forget their place because lukewarm is something people choose. They are like a man sitting upon a fence who refuses to commit either way.
When the work that they had been building is burned while they watch, don't let it be said that nobody told them because the scriptures are opened for all to see.
When the girl at the door comes to escort them from the wedding feast, don't let them whine because they assumed they must do nothing.
When the flood of rain is poured out upon Gentiles and Jews who then become like angels, let those who are Luke warm stay away, and keep them from begging those who receive.
Why would they receive anything they rejected?
They wont.
Let those who say,'' Jesus, we taught your name in the streets,'' keep a snot rag in their back pocket because that's all we will see from them. Snot running out they nose wimpering and saying,'' That's not fair, I wanted everyone to be the same no matter what Jesus claimed.''
It is fair, and it is deserved when people have rejected the things of God all their lives, it's on they head.
And still there is salvation, but only as one who has gone through a fire and witnessed the burning of his own house he had been building all those years, and his charity will mean absolutely nothing, all his good works will mean nothing as he watches his house burn, the same house that he hoped to move into, a house which is immortal and full of power, what belonged to him, he shall not receive.
No, TORAH, is to define sin and bring death to the flesh. SPIRIT is to convict of TORAH, and bring repentance, thus bringing life. Until the law came, we knew not what sin was. You can't, try as you might, have one without the other, just like you can't have a resurrection unless you first have death. Peace
Torah was not added until long after the covenant made with Abraham
The covenant that was made with the children of Israel was because of their sin it was a national sin of disobedience.
Joseph's brothers sold him into slavery, where all of his family ended up due to famine. Moses led them out of slavery and due to their disobedience they were given Torah. The law was added for them to teach them what loving God and loving their neighbour was about. But if you read what happens they were always disobedient, and saying "God said" when he did not say.
Ephraim was scattered, then Judah was then sent to Babylon. In 70AD judgement was given to the Jews, the only way any one has a part in the covenant given to ABRAHAM is through CHRIST.
Moses never entered the promised land, he is not the way, the truth or life.
The things that happened are types of what is happening on a national level. What God requires of individuals is personal responsibility for your actions. What you sow you reap.
When you come out of Babylon you can not go back to eypgt. Babylon and eqypt are types for being in slavery, if you are in Christ you are free!!!!!!!!!
No, TORAH, is to define sin and bring death to the flesh. SPIRIT is to convict of TORAH, and bring repentance, thus bringing life. Until the law came, we knew not what sin was. You can't, try as you might, have one without the other, just like you can't have a resurrection unless you first have death. Peace
Strangely enough, I CAN tell what proceeds from selfishness instead of love. I have no idea why you can't.
It is about love. The only prize worth being concerned with, to me, is the fullness of God/love experienced and expressed within and through us. Unless and until you can show how your worship of and obsession with the law is bringing that to fruition, it is not meaningful to me. And, if you can't say it clear and simple, without bible-code, I will assume that it is not meaningful to me. Nothing personal -- you and I have discussed this at length and we know where the other stands. I love ya.
I'll leave the rest of your post for those who are interested.
That is only when you deny everything that is ever written.
I repeat myself because nobody believes the scriptures I quote about a race for a better resurrection is taught over and over in the bible, NOT MY INVENTION.
NOT MY OPINION.
Tell me, what does it mean when the appointed wedding feast of the Lord has come after the consummation of the Lord and many people come in to sit down and feast, only to then to be kicked right out on they stump?
What is the difference of those people who came into the higher Zoe kingdom to recline with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to then being completely humiliated when the girl at the door comes to grab them by the neck to take them from the prized seats?
Those people sought political correctness and equality in a place that just aint gonna by it. They will come running and grinning because they know they are the greatest in the kingdom of heaven like they gonna sit with Paul and call him a liar to his face, or like they was going to sit down by John, or Jonathon as if they had not fought against them their whole life.
People gonna feel so much shame when they ran to the front seats, to then be dragged out to the outer court while everyone watches them.
I don't make up my own bible Pleroo, these are not my opinions and they are not my assumptions, this is what the bible actually says in English if anyone wants to believe it, but as you say, lol, I am repetitious in quoting scriptures, but I keep hoping people will choose what is written over what they want to believe.
Lord knows I have chosen scripture over my own beliefs many, many times, sounds wonderful, just insert your truth in there, God out the window. That is what is called lawlessness, or sitting in your temple standing against everything that is called of God or that is worshipped, you are the priest of your own temple.
Not saying this to you personally, but I do repeat myself over and over because the scripture I quote proves the truth over and over and I cannot help that somebody simply doesn't believe what was written.
It isn't like I am judging anyone either, there are 3 sections of heaven in my view, and I think all of them are saved, I also believe that when one has found themselves in the outer court of darkness, he should be weeping and gnashing his teeth, he should be extremely happy for what he has been given and try to do better, that's all, and again, I find myself in that outer court for my own reasons but I DO KNOW the difference, and no matter what you may do in this world, you will never annul God's promises to those who believe his promises.
God promise somebody if they will do certain sacrifices that he will reward them and people believe God and go out to make sacrifices, is God a liar?
Did he just make a bunch of promises for people to make great sacrifices like selling all you own to give to the poor so God can just look down on that person and laugh saying,'' Look at this big sucker, he believed my promise?''
Try as you may, you will never take those promises away from people like Stephen.
Liars were paid to witness against Stephen saying that Stephen was teaching people to forsake the laws of Moses.
Stephen went to his death because of promises of God, and he will not be like you and I, I promise you.
Why O why have so many people been tortured and killed for becoming peculiar to God and his ways if it was never meant to be?
Jesus and the disciples did not go from city to city telling people to stay in their pagan religion and love everybody.
NAY, LOL, love saying nay sometimes.
NO, Jesus came for war.
He comes to turn kingdom against kingdom and he would turn the members of a household against themselves that father should hate son and son the father. Mother in law shall hate the daughter in law and daughter in law shall hate the mother in law.
Torah was not added until long after the covenant made with Abraham
The covenant that was made with the children of Israel was because of their sin it was a national sin of disobedience.
Joseph's brothers sold him into slavery, where all of his family ended up due to famine. Moses led them out of slavery and due to their disobedience they were given Torah. The law was added for them to teach them what loving God and loving their neighbour was about. But if you read what happens they were always disobedient, and saying "God said" when he did not say.
Ephraim was scattered, then Judah was then sent to Babylon. In 70AD judgement was given to the Jews, the only way any one has a part in the covenant given to ABRAHAM is through CHRIST.
Moses never entered the promised land, he is not the way, the truth or life.
The things that happened are types of what is happening on a national level. What God requires of individuals is personal responsibility for your actions. What you sow you reap.
When you come out of Babylon you can not go back to Egypt. Babylon and Eqypt are types for being in slavery, if you are in Christ you are free!!!!!!!!!
He comes to turn kingdom against kingdom and he would turn the members of a household against themselves that father should hate son and son the father. Mother in law shall hate the daughter in law and daughter in law shall hate the mother in law.
Do you hate your sister, brother, mother, father, grandmother or grandfather?
And what do you mean by the word hate?
Many people will never understand what it means to fight against Jerusalem and her feasts because they don't see Jerusalem as it is, and what all her comings and goings are about concerning sacrifices with the blood covenant.
Jerusalem is like no other city save one that I had found in ancient Egypt which had the same design before the Temple of the Lord was built.
The Temple is no thing that sits in one place in this design. The Temple is built in the middle of the city which has 3 sections that are the outer court, and then a more personal section inside the actual temple where only an elite may enter, and then a most holy of holies where only a single person may enter.
That is how it begins, but the prophets prove over and over that this temple is an ever expanding temple.
Now the entire city would be laid out in the same progressive design as the temple, and the city then becomes the temple itself where outside this city are people everywhere, but the city itself is lain down in the design of the Holy of Holies because the temple within the city was ever expanding to where anyone who now lived in the city was automatically saved because of the expansion of the temple. We see this in Ezekiel more than anywhere else because it very detailed, it is detailed how the Temple is ever expanding until the temple itself becomes the city and there be fire surrounding the city and gentiles who are not citizens without the city.
Where there was once a great sea and a great alter of burnt offering, EVERY ONE has to decide for themselves, and being that the city has expanded to make them actually living and breathing inside the holy of holies, one and all have become priests of their own house.
Many people will never understand how much Jerusalem has to do with them and why they should accept her Sabbaths and her feasts because she is the temple, and she is you, each of us are priests within our own temple and the instructions and duties of this temple are made to teach us.
Fighting against the 7 feasts of Jesus, his Sabbath, and the commandments of God is to fight against Jerusalem.
This is two separate things, having the testimony of Jesus, AND KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS OF HIS FATHER.
Revelation is written to the people who have both, they have the testimony of Jesus and they keep the commandments of God, and Revelation is written to them about their struggle and how all the people in the outer court come against them with the ways of Babylon, as they fight the ways of Jerusalem, and this is why it shows the marks in the foreheads because people are marked by where their holy days come from, from Mecca, from Rome, from Babylon, from Egypt, from Jerusalem, and this is common sense in action.
You keep the ways of Mecca, and guess what? Mohammed will be written in your forehead. You keep the ways of Babylon and Tammuz is written in your forehead and it doesn't matter what you say, it matters what you do. You can claim that you are not a Muslim all day long but as you are making your pilgrimages to Mecca and keeping Ramadan, I am going to point my finger and say,'' Muslim.''
Is this offensive?
Of course it is not offensive, a person claiming to be a Christian when he is making his pilgrimages up to Mecca should not call himself a Christ even if Muslims have indeed accepted Christmas and Easter, that doesn't make him a Christian, all their holy days still don't come from Jerusalem and Christians are twin brothers with Muslims having the same common feasts as if it were Mannesseh against Ephraim and Ephraim against Mennesaah where both of them are against Jerusalem and Judah.
If a Person makes all his pilgrimages to Mecca or to Babylon where he performs the ancient traditions and rituals of calling on their Messiah, and teaching of his resurrection, well then, they should be proud of their Messiah as if they wanted to give him a new name.
But people in Jerusalem look to the Jewish Messiah and they don't fight against Messiah of Jerusalem and his appointed visitation days to Jerusalem, they know their Messiah.
Fighting against the laws and especially the feasts of Jerusalem is indeed fighting against Jerusalem and all the people who keep her ways holy, those same people continue to be those sacrifices.
I am happy that so many fight Jerusalem and her ways, There is an un describable feeling one gets as he defends the word of God all day, and the ways of Jerusalem, I can't help it, the more people despise me, the more it turns me on because I am despised and hated because I believe in God's commandments, I believe in the 7 feasts of Jesus, I believe in the ways of Jerusalem and I could ask no greater thing to than have a life where I defend God's word from Christians day in and day out and this isn't about interpretation.
I quote a scripture of God or his son, and people directly contradict what Jesus says as if he is wrong, and so I fight for Jerusalem day in and day out and I am happy to have somebody to fight with.
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The only prize worth being concerned with, to me, is the fullness of God/love experienced and expressed within and through us. Unless and until you can show how your worship of and obsession with the law is bringing that to fruition, it is not meaningful to me. And, if you can't say it clear and simple, without bible-code, I will assume that it is not meaningful to me. Nothing personal -- you and I have discussed this at length and we know where the other stands. I love ya.
