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All right. As far as I'm concerned, this thread has gone on long enough and is now degenerating as threads inevitably do on this forum due to the usual people.
My main purpose for this thread, pointing out that the phrase 'the word of God' does not refer only to Jesus was demonstrated quite well, and no one can honestly deny that fact. I've no intention of continuing to reply to the disingenuous posts which the usual people are now throwing at the thread.
It was inevitable that the thread would turn to whether the Bible is the word of God. It is, but the usual people who deny that will continue to do so and I'll not spend any further time on them.
So I'm now off the thread. Let it go wherever it's going to go.
Mike you start a thread knowing full well some of us will challenge your assumptions, then get upset when you are challenged and leave.
Here is something to take with you.
What you want us to believe is that the same people who rejected Gods reign over them, went out and served other gods almost every time we turn around were actually capable of preserving the scriptures without altering anything in them, by adding to them or taking away from them.
In other words Mike you believe sinners kept Gods word perfectly.
So you must believe that the Israelite were not swayed to add laws that God did not command to the sacred text. However we know that is exactly that which they did.
Here is a link to the Babylonian code of Hammurabi which was written 200+BEFORE the time of Moses
In this Babylonian code you will notice many LAWS that we find in the bible that have been attributed to Moses such as an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth and many more.
Now we know Israel was taken captive by Babylon and lived under Babylonian laws so how is it that the bible attributes these laws to Moses via God telling them to Moses?
Here's how. The lying pen of the scribes (yes the one Jeremiah mentioned ) copied the Babylonian laws added them to the scriptures then attributed them to Moses via God to give them weight.
These things are tares in the wheat field Mike and we need to learn to separate the wheat from the tares and the only way to do that is to bring every thought captive to Jesus Christ and weigh those thoughts via the HS.
Anyway even if you won't look at the Babylonian code written 200+ years before the time of Moses to see many of these same law have been attributed to Moses other reading might.
Mike you start a thread knowing full well some of us will challenge your assumptions, then get upset when you are challenged and leave.
Here is something to take with you.
What you want us to believe is that the same people who rejected Gods reign over them, went out and served other gods almost every time we turn around were actually capable of preserving the scriptures without altering anything in them, by adding to them or taking away from them.
In other words Mike you believe sinners kept Gods word perfectly.
So you must believe that the Israelite were not swayed to add laws that God did not command to the sacred text. However we know that is exactly that which they did.
Here is a link to the Babylonian code of Hammurabi which was written 200+BEFORE the time of Moses
In this Babylonian code you will notice many LAWS that we find in the bible that have been attributed to Moses such as an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth and many more.
Now we know Israel was taken captive by Babylon and lived under Babylonian laws so how is it that the bible attributes these laws to Moses via God telling them to Moses?
Here's how. The lying pen of the scribes (yes the one Jeremiah mentioned ) copied the Babylonian laws added them to the scriptures then attributed them to Moses via God to give them weight.
These things are tares in the wheat field Mike and we need to learn to separate the wheat from the tares and the only way to do that is to bring every thought captive to Jesus Christ and weigh those thoughts via the HS.
Anyway, even if you won't look at the Babylonian code written 200+ years before the time of Moses to see many of these same laws have been attributed to Moses other reading might.
When you have fired your best shots in defense of your position and they are soundly refuted there is little else to do but withdraw.
Mike you start a thread knowing full well some of us will challenge your assumptions, then get upset when you are challenged and leave.
Here is something to take with you.
What you want us to believe is that the same people who rejected Gods reign over them, went out and served other gods almost every time we turn around were actually capable of preserving the scriptures without altering anything in them, by adding to them or taking away from them.
In other words Mike you believe sinners kept Gods word perfectly.
So you must believe that the Israelite were not swayed to add laws that God did not command to the sacred text. However we know that is exactly that which they did.
Here is a link to the Babylonian code of Hammurabi which was written 200+BEFORE the time of Moses
In this Babylonian code you will notice many LAWS that we find in the bible that have been attributed to Moses such as an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth and many more.
Now we know Israel was taken captive by Babylon and lived under Babylonian laws so how is it that the bible attributes these laws to Moses via God telling them to Moses?
Here's how. The lying pen of the scribes (yes the one Jeremiah mentioned ) copied the Babylonian laws added them to the scriptures then attributed them to Moses via God to give them weight.
These things are tares in the wheat field Mike and we need to learn to separate the wheat from the tares and the only way to do that is to bring every thought captive to Jesus Christ and weigh those thoughts via the HS.
Anyway even if you won't look at the Babylonian code written 200+ years before the time of Moses to see many of these same law have been attributed to Moses other reading might.
And HOW does that prove ANYTHING, since the Torah was known all the way back into the garden? Or did you think G-d just walked with Adam in the cool of the day (means His breath, walking in the Spirit, which by it's nature includes revelation) talking about the squirrels in the trees? ABRAHAM knew the Torah (Abraham SAW MY DAY and was glad), and for a certainty so did Enoch. Peace
LOL! Another failure to comprehend, Mystic was talking about Mike555's announcement that he was withdrawing from the thread.
Why confused seems to be your normal state.
And I said: When you expand the definition of a word to mean something it doesn't, then you not only change the meaning of the word; but the entire context in which it is used.
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And you failed to give an example to back up your claim. You simply made a unsupported assertion.
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It flew right over his head Jer, better break it down for him.
Indoctrination blinds people to the truth, he is not going to see anything beyond what he was taught.
Indoctrination blinds people to the truth, he is not going to see anything beyond what he was taught.
How do you know what Mike was taught? Do you know him personally?
I think it's safe to say, we're all educated adults here, with the ability to think. It seems you and your liberal friends play the "what you were taught" card, when you have no valid argument of your own.
How do you know what Mike was taught? Do you know him personally?
I think it's safe to say, we're all educated adults here, with the ability to think. It seems you and your liberal friends play the "what you were taught" card, when you have no valid argument of your own.
How do you know what Mike was taught? Do you know him personally?
Mike has extensively revealed what he was taught, jimmie, so that is a silly question.
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I think it's safe to say, we're all educated adults here, with the ability to think. It seems you and your liberal friends play the "what you were taught" card, when you have no valid argument of your own.
No, jimmie. We do not agree with your belief that the words "written in ink" are the Word of God. We believe they are God-inspired words that tell us ABOUT the Word of God, Jesus the Christ. We use the "mind of Christ" as revealed in His actions and teachings, especially His death as the example of God's Spirit (true nature) and test the spirit of everything claimed to be from God or Jesus using the descriptions of God's Spirit as agape love. You do NOT. You blindly accept everything based on the man-made concept that the words "written in ink" are the Word of God instead of Jesus the Christ.
How do you know what Mike was taught? Do you know him personally?
I think it's safe to say, we're all educated adults here, with the ability to think. It seems you and your liberal friends play the "what you were taught" card, when you have no valid argument of your own.
You are absolutely right. There is no reason to think that people are only blinded to rational thought by pre-set ideas, they might just be irrational.
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