Universalism - all aspects - pro and con (belief, Jesus, faith)

[jjGuru]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

Well, yes and no. Jesus did the work to save all of mankind, but each individual must access Christ’s righteousness by faith, belief.

Acts 16

30 Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31 They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

I also believe that Jesus did the work that saves "all mankind". Both objectively and subjectively. However, salvation is not received subjectively until faith.

[jjGuru]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

No, He died for all, but that scripture clearly designates the one who believes.

If, as you say: Jesus died for all, and that scripture clearly designates it as for "the one who believes", then all will believe.

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by jjGuru

If, as you say: Jesus died for all, and that scripture clearly designates it as for "the one who believes", then all will believe.

In due time.

[jjGuru]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

In due time.

Each in their own order.

[Horn of ‘83]

Originally Posted by jjGuru

If, as you say: Jesus died for all, and that scripture clearly designates it as for "the one who believes", then all will believe.

I realize that is the UR view, but the passage in question does NOT say that.

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

I realize that is the UR view, but the passage in question does NOT say that.

Universal Reconciliation is in the Scriptures, whether you want to believe it, or not, doesn't alter that fact.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

I realize that is the UR view, but the passage in question does NOT say that.

Your belief in the Bible and not Jesus is such a sad thing to behold. You are a Christian so you should believe that Jesus is God, NOT the Bible! What a travesty. Getting people to follow the Bible instead of Jesus has been the most Satanic thing that has happened to Christianity. It completely negated Christ's unambiguous demonstration of God's agape love! The deeply disturbing tragedy of it all is that you THINK you are SINCERELY following Jesus and God!! It is heartbreaking!

[Rose2Luv]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

Well, yes and no. Jesus did the work to save all of mankind, but each individual must access Christ’s righteousness by faith, belief.

Acts 16

30 Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31 They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

Jimmie: In the case of the jailer, his believing extended to salvation of his entire household.

[jjGuru]

Originally Posted by jimmiej

I realize that is the UR view, but the passage in question does NOT say that.

I was concluding what you had stated. The text states that Jesus justifies the ungodly, and that is what I believe.

[jjGuru]

jimmiej

Have you ever forgiven someone without them knowing it?