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Old 07-07-2021, 05:27 PM
 
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A hot topic that is mostly debated by the uneducated people on ancient wine making methods is the question: what kind of wine did Jesus make? The Bible gives the response of a man who claims it was "good" wine, what did the ancients consider as being good? A simple study of historical writings would clarify what was the "good" wine. Does anybody have insight into the ancient wine making methods? There are apparently multiple writings throughout history, both B.C. and A.D. on the universal agreement on "good", speaking in a general sense.
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Old 07-07-2021, 05:32 PM
 
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Who knows, and does it even matter? It was wine, pure and simple. The good stuff. Jesus and the disciples enjoyed it, and had no problems whatsoever.

I'm not an expert on Israeli wines, but it was probably some type of delicious red wine.
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Old 07-07-2021, 05:41 PM
 
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Who knows, and does it even matter? It's wine, pure and simple. The good stuff.

I'm not an expert on Israeli wines, but it was probably some type of delicious red wine.

It doesn't matter. Jesus and the disciples enjoyed it, and had no problems whatsoever.
You might be intrigued if you study the ancient ways, it was simple methods that preserved wine for years, kept it from fermenting, kept it tasting sweet. Sweet wine was the desirable kind. Hot climate would make freshly pressed wine turn sour, vinegar tasting. Jews, Arabs, Greeks, and Romans along with other cultures all possessed the same basic methods. Nothing beyond ordinary people abilities.
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Old 07-07-2021, 05:42 PM
 
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Probably not Boone's Farm. That stuff was terrible when I drank it as a teenager. Bleck!!!
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Old 07-07-2021, 05:42 PM
 
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If we really needed to know, it would have been spelled out for us. But it wasn't, because we don't need to get caught up in what type of wine it was. That wasn't the point of that miracle. Our focus should be elsewhere.

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Old 07-07-2021, 06:16 PM
 
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In those days there wasn't a way to keep grape juice from fermenting (that we know of) and so if you wanted grape juice you had to drink it right after you harvested it.

In 1869 Welch's grape juice came out as they were able to pasteurize the grape juice to keep it from fermenting.
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Old 07-07-2021, 06:22 PM
 
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Poor Danny seems to be a product of an ascetic temperance family who mistakenly focuses on WHAT is usually considered sin instead of the WHY (state of mind) that makes it sinful (missing the mark). Like most things in life, consuming alcohol, per se, is not sinful, but why it is being consumed CAN BE! Paraphrasing what Paul said, nothing is of itself sinful, but to the man who considers it sinful, it is sinful.
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Old 07-07-2021, 06:33 PM
 
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There's a list of grape varieties here. The Argaman is from Israel, and it's a considered a wine grape, so that's a likely contender.
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Old 07-07-2021, 06:36 PM
 
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Probably not Boone's Farm. That stuff was terrible when I drank it as a teenager. Bleck!!!
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If we really needed to know, it would have been spelled out for us. But it wasn't, because we don't need to get caught up in what type of wine it was. That wasn't the point of that miracle. Our focus should be elsewhere.
Yeah, I’ll stick with a nice “Oak” Chardonnay, in moderation
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Old 07-07-2021, 06:40 PM
 
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Poor Danny seems to be a product of an ascetic temperance family who mistakenly focuses on WHAT is usually considered sin instead of the WHY (state of mind) that makes it sinful (missing the mark). Like most things in life, consuming alcohol, per se, is not sinful, but why it is being consumed CAN BE! Paraphrasing what Paul said, nothing is of itself sinful, but to the man who considers it sinful, it is sinful.
Paul never said that about sin! You couldn't even get right what James said about sin.

He said, he who knows to do good and does it not, to him it is sin.
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