Where Have All the Loving Christians Gone?

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

That is just so, so tragic. And I'm assuming that if your mother is still living, this is still her attitude towards you?

It is unloving things like this that will be the source of much weeping and gnashing of teeth when the truth is finally known, IMO.

[L8Gr8Apost8]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

That is just so, so tragic. And I'm assuming that if your mothing is still living, this is still her attitude towards you?

I'm not entirely sure. My brother said she will say will bring up my name and talk about me seemingly unaware that she shunned me in 2014. She has some serious mental health issues (my younger brother calls her a narcissist) and I don't know if that is organic or just a by-product of living under Watchtower's control for 50 years. I would expect that she would choose the Watchtower over everything since she has sacrificed her whole life to it and hasn't been allowed to use her mind for 50 years. Plus she's a convert so I'm sure she had some resistance when she joined. I know my dad doesn't have anything good to say about them. I know she doesn't feel respected by my dad. That's got to be rough. I'm not sad for me because I am at least free of any more abuse. I'm sad for her because she'll never make her way out. I know she believes all three of her children and her husband will be murdered at Armageddon. I know she is extremely paranoid because for 50 years the government has been out to get her because she knows the truth.

My dad fell down a flight of stairs at 77 years old last year and nearly died. He was in the hospital and she didn't want him to come home to recuperate because one of the conditions was he couldn't drink and my mom thought she'd have to fight him over that and she didn't want to deal. So she decided he should come to my house (which was full) without asking him or myself. She calls me and tries to start some weird conversation trash-talking my dad to me and telling me her problems. I was to pick him up from the hospital and put him on my couch and watch him. I just told her no and gray rocked her.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by L8Gr8Apost8

I'm not entirely sure. My brother said she will say will bring up my name and talk about me seemingly unaware that she shunned me in 2014. She has some serious mental health issues (my younger brother calls her a narcissist) and I don't know if that is organic or just a by-product of living under Watchtower's control for 50 years. I would expect that she would choose the Watchtower over everything since she has sacrificed her whole life to it and hasn't been allowed to use her mind for 50 years. Plus she's a convert so I'm sure she had some resistance when she joined. I know my dad doesn't have anything good to say about them. I know she doesn't feel respected by my dad. That's got to be rough. I'm not sad for me because I am at least free of any more abuse. I'm sad for her because she'll never make her way out. I know she believes all three of her children and her husband will be murdered at Armageddon. I know she is extremely paranoid because for 50 years the government has been out to get her because she knows the truth.

My dad fell down a flight of stairs at 77 years old last year and nearly died. He was in the hospital and she didn't want him to come home to recuperate because one of the conditions was he couldn't drink and my mom thought she'd have to fight him over that and she didn't want to deal. So she decided he should come to my house (which was full) without asking him or myself. She calls me and tries to start some weird conversation trash-talking my dad to me and telling me her problems. I was to pick him up from the hospital and put him on my couch and watch him. I just told her no and gray rocked her.

Oh my gosh! I can't even imagine. First of all, I can't imagine how awful it would be to live in fear of your husband and children being murdered at Armageddon. The mind control has got to be positively overwhelming. And her mental health issues have just got to feed off of everything she is indoctrinated with by the Watchtower. I'm so glad you got out, and I guess estrangement from your mother is, in a way, a small price to pay.

[BaptistFundie]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

You really need to stop putting words in the mouths of others and lying about them, BF. I called no one pawns and the message WAS used to control and subjugate the masses as the many evil exercises of Church power have demonstrated over the millennia.

There can be many reasons why people fail to see the truth of it that have nothing to do with being pawns. My views PROMOTE the agape love of God in place of the dominant wrath and damnation message, so if that drove the loving Christians away, I am puzzled as to why.

Just start showing some of that agape love you're always harping about and it won't be an issue.

And maybe the "loving Christians" won't leave.