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A lot, maybe most, of Protestantism regards it as a valid concept . Probably the majority of evangelicals and fundamentalists that post here feel the same way. It is standard biblical literalist thinking .
Dude: The majority has never grasped that which is beyond them. The majority of E. & F.'s are content to have the Lord of Glory be a dismal failure as the Archegos & Teleiotes, but alas..
"I believe implicitly in the ultimate and complete triumph of God, the time when all things shall be subject to Him and when God will be everything to everyone. For me, this has certain consequences. If one man remains outside of the love of God at the end of time, it means that one man has defeated the love of God, and that is impossible. Further, there is only one way in which we can think of the triumph of our God. If God was no more than a King or judge, then it would be possible to speak of his triumph, if His enemies were agonizing in hell or were totally and completely obliterated and wiped out. But God is not only king and Judge, God is Father, He is indeed Father more than anything else. No father could be happy while there were members of his family for ever in agony. No father would count it a triumph to obliterate the disobedient members of his family. The only triumph a father can know is to have all of his family back home again.
There is no such thing as the Christian HELL or that of eternal damnation.
Oh I don’t believe in it, it is one of the main reasons I parted company . I’m just trying to learn how these folks justify in their minds. I never could .
Children will never be cast into the Lake of fire. They are innocent.
Those who go to heaven won’t know if their loved ones are burning eternally.
Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
E V E R Y O N E, Every person whoever lived will be tossed into the lake of fire.
ALL MEN, ALL PEOPLE IN HISTORY.
You have either matured a full grown man within you or you have not, and with the majority of Christians, it is the.latter because you cannot raise and mature a new born creature in the milk of the word till he can eat meat, if you have no meat to give, and Christians have wholley tossed the meat of the word right out of the bible.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON WILL STAND IN THE FIRE, everyone who has lived and none of them suffer eternal punishment, ALL ARE SAVED.
BECAUSE CHRISTIANS have tossed the meat of the word having no knowledge of the missions and sacrifices of Jesus, they are reading Jewish idioms, phrases and concepts they dont understand because they simply do not know the form, design and the comings and goings of the temple THEY CLAIM TO BE.
THE PATTERN of the temple is showing you what the after life is, and the fessts decide who is who, and what is what. Christians are completely ignorant of the missions and sscrifices of Jesus because the 7 feasts of Jesus ARE HIS MISSIONS AND THEY DIVIDE THE DEAD IN 3 SEPARATE SECTIONS.
Jesus told us that you could speak directly against him and be forgiven but he goes WAY FARTHER.
Jesus said you can choose to be the WORST SINNERS IN HISTORY, That you could literally decide not.to follow any of the laws of Moses(SIN), AND EVEN ABOVE THAT, tou can teach against Jesus, not keep any of the laws, AND EVEN TEACH OTHERS NOT TO KEEP THE LAWS OF MOSES.
Do understand this?
EVEN THE WORST OF SINNERS WHO SPEAK AGAINST JESUS, AND AGAINST MOSES, WHO REFUSE TO FOLLOW MOSES, EVEN THEY THEMSELVES ARE SAVED.
The sexual immoral, thirves, murderers, those who love the great lie, EVEN THOSE ARE SAVED, and we can see their salvation plainly when Jesus speaks of those sections of heaven. There is the least in the kingdom, and this is the court, and there is a greatest in the kingdom and this is through the narrow way into the holy of holies becoming a priest. There is also the in between standing in the holy place, and Hebrews 8 clearly tells us that those 3 sections of the temple represent 3 sections of heaven.
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1 Corinthians 3
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Christians are reading idioms and concepts that they dont.understand becauae they have shunned the knowledge of the temple
Hell IS rhe outer court of Gentiles that HAS ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN AS OUTER DARKNESS.
Why is it called," Outer darkness?
Because past the first veil standing in the holy place is the Menorah OF GOD.
7 EXTREEM LIGHTS that are so extreem as to turn night into day as it is in Sukkot and Sukkot is named the feast of lights because of that extreem light.
When Jeaus said no murderers or the sexual immoral or no thieves shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, he was speaking of the higher Zoe kingdom and very few shall enter into the Zoe kingdom, I sure dont expect to make it. Those murderers will be tested by fire just like anyone, and although their works will burn, they themselves are saved.
This Stepford faith is amazing. To even accept that God would blot your memories, so that He won't come off looking bad to you, is ridiculous.
This is nothing like seeing God for who He truly is. He will make the former conditions, that led us to Him over the absence of Him, go away. He won't make us twist anymore, in a world that doesn't have immediate feedback demonstrating the presence of God. We will have gotten what we needed from that condition.
Yes, He does that for us, so why would he ever blot out what you learned, assuming it wasn't all about fear and abusing others in order to succeed? There is a point to blotting that out. There is no point to a selective geometry that has a memory like Swiss cheese.
As for what rises forever, it is the smoke of the torment of those who worshiped the Beast, or, even, took his mark. This saying comes on the heels of John having told us about the persecution the Beast will deliver to God's people at the end. It will be a hard time. There is an element of perspective given in this statement, as well as it being a statement that people can feel says something about the judgment of God.
In context, it may not be as powerful a statement for judgment, though, as it would appear. Because it says something, in the given idioms, about the difference being so severe that although it looks like there is a choice to be made now, there really isn't. None of the things offered by the other choice will pan out. And they won't pan out when people try to bring them back later. They will even be discredited when the rebellion at the end takes place as well.
God is saying we will have grown. It is just about the opposite of Swiss cheese.
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There is no such thing as the Christian HELL or that of eternal damnation.
Jer: any individual who thinks for a nano-second our Father, the Father of all fathers has such a ghastly dimension within Himself is greatly deceived.
ABBA = the most intimate term in Scripture = Dearest Daddy
Have you received private revelation from God confirming this?
Have you heard or read a trusted authority who has made this assertion based on good evidence or his own or another's authority?
Yes, Jewish rabbis expounding on a concept of their religion that Christianity took as its own but changed the particulars from redemptive to retributive
Yes, Jewish rabbis expounding on a concept of their religion that Christianity took as its own but changed the particulars from redemptive to retributive
You give more credence to the authorities within the Jewish religion than you do to the authorities within the Christian religion? Why?
Also, you do not view Christianity as being "redemptive"?
There is no such thing as the Christian HELL or that of eternal damnation.
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Originally Posted by Rose2Luv
Jer: any individual who thinks for a nano-second our Father, the Father of all fathers has such a ghastly dimension within Himself is greatly deceived. ABBA = the most intimate term in Scripture = Dearest Daddy
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Originally Posted by EscAlaMike
Have you received private revelation from God confirming this?
Have you heard or read a trusted authority who has made this assertion based on good evidence or his own or another's authority?
You do not seem to have the inner decency and sense of agape love and forgiveness to recognize the primitive origins of Hell and its complete incompatibility with the God revealed by Jesus Christ. There is little hope that ANY authority could breach that big a gap between your soul and agape love. That is very sad and very troubling.
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