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There is no reason not to take Ephesians 5:22-33 at face value; as literal, practical instructions for husbands and wives.
Nothing against you personally, but I give far more credence to the historic, Catholic interpretation of Ephesians 5 than to yours or whatever gnostic interpretation you hold to.
well I would give more credence to what Paul said over your Catholic interpretation and Paul summed eph. 5 up this way.
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
well I would give more credence to what Paul said over your Catholic interpretation
You do not have the right to interpret Paul for yourself. Paul was a Catholic Priest, Apostle, and Saint. His teaching is Catholic teaching, and vice versa.
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Originally Posted by pneuma
and Paul summed eph. 5 up this way.
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
You do not have the right to interpret Paul for yourself. Paul was a Catholic Priest, Apostle, and Saint. His teaching is Catholic teaching, and vice versa.
Exactly. Thank you for supporting my point.
It actually does not support your view mike and I do have the right to interpret Paul, this belief you have that only the pope has that right is just pain ridiculous
It actually does not support your view mike and I do have the right to interpret Paul, this belief you have that only the pope has that right is just pain ridiculous
Maybe you're being facetious, but that's not actually how it works.
Maybe you're being facetious, but that's not actually how it works.
well mike if you have taken the time to read what the church believed for the first 500 years you would know that what the church believe now is incorrect. I really hope if you have not read it yet that you will.
Maybe you're being facetious, but that's not actually how it works.
Your magical belief in how it works is NOT actually how it works, Mike. There was no magical apostolic succession transferred to mere humans. They have self-appointed themselves ever since the original apostles died. That is the sad and all too obvious truth of the matter. That you can excuse all the evidence of human fallibility, flaws, corruption, and evil, through the millennia even till today is mind-boggling to me. That is why I asked if you were an educated man.
If God intended only one way to interpret Paul, why isn't it more clear?
Bravo, QB!
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