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Old 08-23-2021, 01:37 PM
 
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I'm not willing to unequivocally condemn child marriages as practiced in Catholic societies, nor am I willing to unequivocally condemn witch burning.
Are you an educated man, Mike? Some of your assertions would make it seem as though you are not.
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Old 08-23-2021, 05:18 PM
 
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There is no reason not to take Ephesians 5:22-33 at face value; as literal, practical instructions for husbands and wives.

Nothing against you personally, but I give far more credence to the historic, Catholic interpretation of Ephesians 5 than to yours or whatever gnostic interpretation you hold to.

well I would give more credence to what Paul said over your Catholic interpretation and Paul summed eph. 5 up this way.

This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.


Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
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Old 08-23-2021, 05:28 PM
 
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well I would give more credence to what Paul said over your Catholic interpretation
You do not have the right to interpret Paul for yourself. Paul was a Catholic Priest, Apostle, and Saint. His teaching is Catholic teaching, and vice versa.

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and Paul summed eph. 5 up this way.

This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.


Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
Exactly. Thank you for supporting my point.
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Old 08-23-2021, 05:32 PM
 
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well I would give more credence to what Paul said over your Catholic interpretation and Paul summed eph. 5 up this way.

This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.


Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
Love and respect is a two-way street, both require open-hands when it comes to giving and receiving.
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:09 PM
 
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You do not have the right to interpret Paul for yourself. Paul was a Catholic Priest, Apostle, and Saint. His teaching is Catholic teaching, and vice versa.



Exactly. Thank you for supporting my point.
It actually does not support your view mike and I do have the right to interpret Paul, this belief you have that only the pope has that right is just pain ridiculous
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:18 PM
 
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It actually does not support your view mike and I do have the right to interpret Paul, this belief you have that only the pope has that right is just pain ridiculous
Maybe you're being facetious, but that's not actually how it works.
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:28 PM
 
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Maybe you're being facetious, but that's not actually how it works.
well mike if you have taken the time to read what the church believed for the first 500 years you would know that what the church believe now is incorrect. I really hope if you have not read it yet that you will.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:17 PM
 
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Maybe you're being facetious, but that's not actually how it works.
Your magical belief in how it works is NOT actually how it works, Mike. There was no magical apostolic succession transferred to mere humans. They have self-appointed themselves ever since the original apostles died. That is the sad and all too obvious truth of the matter. That you can excuse all the evidence of human fallibility, flaws, corruption, and evil, through the millennia even till today is mind-boggling to me. That is why I asked if you were an educated man.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:59 PM
 
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You do not have the right to interpret Paul for yourself.
God gave pneuma a brain and freewill. We are all free to connect to God in our own unique way and therefore does have the right to interpret.




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Paul was a Catholic Priest, Apostle, and Saint. His teaching is Catholic teaching, and vice versa.
Paul died in 67 C.E.

The Catholic Church started in 590 C.E.


There is nothing about the Catholic Church in this biography on Paul.

https://theologycurator.com/apostle-...20as%20well%29.


Paul seems to have been a Christian priest for all Christians that influenced different types of Christians including Catholicism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle


If God intended only one way to interpret Paul, why isn't it more clear?
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Old 08-23-2021, 08:30 PM
 
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God gave pneuma a brain and freewill. We are all free to connect to God in our own unique way and therefore does have the right to interpret.

Paul died in 67 C.E.

The Catholic Church started in 590 C.E.

There is nothing about the Catholic Church in this biography on Paul.

https://theologycurator.com/apostle-...20as%20well%29.

Paul seems to have been a Christian priest for all Christians that influenced different types of Christians including Catholicism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle

If God intended only one way to interpret Paul, why isn't it more clear?
Bravo, QB!
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