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Old 08-24-2021, 05:30 AM
 
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You do not have the right to interpret Paul for yourself. Paul was a Catholic Priest, Apostle, and Saint. His teaching is Catholic teaching, and vice versa.



Exactly. Thank you for supporting my point.
It's not possible for Paul to have been a Catholic priest.
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Old 08-24-2021, 07:22 AM
 
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LIAR! Why the hell do you keep repeating this lie about my views, BF. You are not being a Christian when you bear false witness against or are an accuser of the brethren. You know that my views are based on God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness as revealed by Jesus Christ on the Cross and described in YOUR Bible.
So why again don't you believe the Old Testament?
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Old 08-24-2021, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Alabama
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well mike if you have taken the time to read what the church believed for the first 500 years you would know that what the church believe now is incorrect. I really hope if you have not read it yet that you will.
Hey pneuma, I responded to this in the universalism thread.
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Old 08-24-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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LIAR! Why the hell do you keep repeating this lie about my views, BF. You are not being a Christian when you bear false witness against or are an accuser of the brethren. You know that my views are based on God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness as revealed by Jesus Christ on the Cross and described in YOUR Bible.
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So why again don't you believe the Old Testament?
I believe the OT was inspired by God but interpreted incorrectly by primitives who believed that God was wrathful and vengeful and that His wrath was the reason for everything negative that happened, including what they did. That makes their interpretations of God and His motives WRONG! Jesus revealed God and His motives unambiguously on the Cross as agape love and forgiveness. That means that the incorrect interpretations need to be revised using the revelations of God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness by Jesus on the Cross.
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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It's not possible for Paul to have been a Catholic priest.
Or for Peter to have been the first Catholic Pope, for that matter. Neither of these men would have had a clue what the Catholic Church even was.
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:26 AM
 
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I believe the OT was inspired by God but interpreted incorrectly by primitives who believed that God was wrathful and vengeful and that His wrath was the reason for everything negative that happened, including what they did. That makes their interpretations of God and His motives WRONG! Jesus revealed God and His motives unambiguously on the Cross as agape love and forgiveness. That means that the incorrect interpretations need to be revised using the revelations of God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness by Jesus on the Cross.
Right. So because it was "interpreted incorrectly" you simply rip it out and toss it.

So how again was I not correct in what I stated?
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Hey pneuma, I responded to this in the universalism thread.
I seen that mike and made my response there.
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:51 AM
 
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Right. So because it was "interpreted incorrectly" you simply rip it out and toss it.
So how again was I not correct in what I stated?
Because I do not toss it! I reinterpret it using what they had to mean given the True Nature of God as revealed by Jesus (NOT what I like or do not like!).
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Alabama
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It's not possible for Paul to have been a Catholic priest.
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Or for Peter to have been the first Catholic Pope, for that matter. Neither of these men would have had a clue what the Catholic Church even was.
I've refrained from responding because it's off-topic for this thread, but since a second poster has chimed in, I just have to say the following:

The Church has always been Catholic from its inception at Pentecost when believers from all nations were gathered and the confusion of Babel was undone.

Of course Paul and Peter knew that the Church was καθολικός. There's really no debate here.
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:58 AM
 
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Because I do not toss it! I reinterpret it using what they had to mean given the True Nature of God as revealed by Jesus (NOT what I like or do not like!).
Right. You "reinterpret it".

lol...sure. Bottom line is that it's subject to what you believe about Jesus.
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