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Old 06-20-2022, 01:13 PM
 
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For the last 20 years or so, I've needed the Eucharist.
It has sustained me through some trying times - sometimes being the only thing I could look forward to in a week, and strengthening me to get thru the following one!

Great readings at the mass this weekend, btw - timely too:
Gn 14:18-20
Ps 110:1, 2, 3, 4
1 Cor 11:23-26
Lauda Sion
Jn 6:51
Lk 9:11b-17

link - https://bible.usccb.org/bible/readings/061922.cfm
Bingo! I noticed that too!

Here's the thing that gets me about the whole issue - do people think that the councils that have met for around 2000 years have not parsed and dissected every single doctrine, taking all texts into consideration?
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Old 06-20-2022, 02:24 PM
 
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Here's the thing that gets me about the whole issue - do people think that the councils that have met for around 2000 years have not parsed and dissected every single doctrine, taking all texts into consideration?
Yes, many do think that.

I never knew that intelligent, well-read, and Scripturally literate Catholics existed until I was in college.
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Old 06-20-2022, 03:04 PM
 
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Yes, many do think that.

I never knew that intelligent, well-read, and Scripturally literate Catholics existed until I was in college.
LOL I don't think that's relegated to only Catholics.

I remember when I was so shocked that there had originally been 73 books in the canon of the bible. I was like "Hold up. So everyone who ever went through seminary probably knows that but no one mentions it." Same with literalists who don't believe in transubstantiation. Hold up. As for Mary, after all the other brouhaha, I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt! LOL
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Old 06-20-2022, 03:31 PM
 
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I never knew that intelligent, well-read, and Scripturally literate Catholics existed until I was in college.
I never realized how fully engrained into my conscious, most of scripture was, from having it heard read at mass - over my 40+ years - until having my NDE, when it 'came alive' !
I may not know chapter &verse assignment, but the scripture is 'there', like total recall!
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Old 06-20-2022, 04:12 PM
 
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I never realized how fully engrained into my conscious, most of scripture was, from having it heard read at mass - over my 40+ years - until having my NDE, when it 'came alive' !
I may not know chapter &verse assignment, but the scripture is 'there', like total recall!
I think that is part of what is meant when Paul records in the letter to Timothy (which means dear to God) how he has known the Scriptures/writings from childhood

The traditions and rituals and songs are linked to the information at a very deep unconscious level

It’s part of the composite, the physical/spiritual in one body - communion and communication go together as they are the ‘bread’ and ‘word’

Each part has its own allocation/position/responsibility


Gal 3:24**Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25**But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26**For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27**For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28**There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29**And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Rome is of the law and puts the children under bondage and tutelage - that was the design from the beginning
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Old 06-20-2022, 06:05 PM
 
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Yes. I believe in Eucharistic Miracles and I believe in science. Here is a scholarly article by Fr. Robert Spitzer Which focuses on just a few such Eucharistic Miracles: https://f.hubspotusercontent40.net/h...gis-Center.pdf

Here is a website listing Eucharistic Miracles throughout the world:
Eucharistic Miracles of the World - International Vatican Exhibition
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Old 06-25-2022, 10:53 AM
 
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Yes, many do think that.

I never knew that intelligent, well-read, and Scripturally literate Catholics existed until I was in college.

As a convert who was attracted to the immense riches of The Catholic Church, I found the lack of intellectual curiousity among it's laity disappointing at 1st.
Seemed many just took for granted the deposit of faith which is unique to the institution.

But those curious about Church history and it's development over the past 2000 years, will find more then they could ever adequately study in a lifetime.
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Old 06-25-2022, 12:42 PM
 
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yes? No?
no !
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Old 06-25-2022, 01:16 PM
 
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As a convert who was attracted to the immense riches of The Catholic Church, I found the lack of intellectual curiousity among it's laity disappointing at 1st.
Seemed many just took for granted the deposit of faith which is unique to the institution.

But those curious about Church history and it's development over the past 2000 years, will find more then they could ever adequately study in a lifetime.
And it’s not just for its own members either

Since the 1500’s with the printing press, and now with the internet there is a lot freely available

And it’s not just the Catholic Church that has made both its history and works available for study either

I believe that was part of the design - knowledge to both increase and also to be freely available, then it can all be judged
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Old 06-26-2022, 07:35 AM
 
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And it’s not just for its own members either

Since the 1500’s with the printing press, and now with the internet there is a lot freely available

And it’s not just the Catholic Church that has made both its history and works available for study either

I believe that was part of the design - knowledge to both increase and also to be freely available, then it can all be judged
When I signed up for RCIA (Rites of Christian Initiation for Adults) at the local diocese, it was open to everyone, and many people from other denominations attended some or all of the classes, without ever converting. I thought that was very cool.

Pretty sure it's still the same.
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