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A christian is someone who believes that the Word of God is true and accepts Jesus as their Lord and Savior.We all sin and fall short of the glory of God.I believe God works/deals with us all in His way.
Truth is the Gospel? No, Jesus is the Gospel. The Alpha, and the Omega. All is for Him, and Him alone. Ephesians chapter 1 ALL of it.
(John 14:6) 6 "Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me"
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No, I base the fact of whether they love, and have compassion. By their FRUIT you shall KNOW them. And what is a "right" Jesus. Last I looked, there is only One Begotten Son of the Father.
Jehovah Witnesses believe Jesus to be Michael The Arch Angel, Christians believe Him to be God. Let me ask you? If we don't worship the same Jesus, How can we both be Christian?
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Sorry. They "say" and "act" like Christians, but aren't? Interesting.
I don't know but I need to know
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My, my my. That verse is so taken out of context, and if this is a reason to judge another man, I am so sorry you see it in this light.
Let me ask you a simple yet profound question. Do you sin? It really is a simple question, for if by the chance you say yes,, then the Truly Spiritual man who does not sin, CAN BRING AN ACCUSATION against you.
But unto us God revealed through the Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual {thoughts} with spiritual {words.} But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually judged.
Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away;
Luk 6:37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
I think I shall stick with my savior. He says don't judge, nor condemn. Simple enough for myself.
Your context of scripture is all over the place and you love to change the argument. He was talking about judging not condemning or judging someone's salvation. You totally turned that around.
(Matthew 7:4-5) 4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5"You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
(You can judge)
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Your context of scripture is all over the place and you love to change the argument. He was talking about judging not condemning or judging someone's salvation. You totally turned that around.
(Matthew 7:4-5) 4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5"You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
(You can judge)
You do know this is a good way to get attacked by the person you are going to in love. I once went to a pastor who I believed had misspoke in his sermon. I approached him first by admitting my own strongholds or temptations and then I approached what I disagreed with. He never addressed the problem but he did come down on me for what I admitted to.
I have a serious yearning in my heart for the Jehovah Witnesses, when i lived in Virginia there was a group that came by about once a month and we talked for about an hour each time. We agreed on alot of stuff but the main thing that got me was Jesus being the brother of Satan and equal to Satan. They even went so far as to say Jesus was actually the archangel Michael and was not God but was a god. I am sorry but these things do not fit right and we had some pretty good discussions on this topic. Now we live in Morman Country and they avoid me like the plague, I guess they see me as a demon or something.
"I think I shall stick with my savior. He says don't judge, nor condemn. Simple enough for myself"
Believe it or not, the rest of the Bible,( the Holy Scriptures) was inspired by our Savior also....not just the red letter part! I will stick with ALL of what He inspired to be written!
If you think only the red letter parts are the doctrine of Christ, you need to study a lot more!
You do know this is a good way to get attacked by the person you are going to in love. I once went to a pastor who I believed had misspoke in his sermon. I approached him first by admitting my own strongholds or temptations and then I approached what I disagreed with. He never addressed the problem but he did come down on me for what I admitted to.
I am not going to criticize your Pastor because I don't know his side but I will never come down on you. I would welcome such advice because I would want to know if I misspoke, people do make mistakes and if I did not then I will explain my reasoning to you but don't be upset at your pastor, they have a really difficult and stressful job. I am not excusing him but it could have been a bad day for him.
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I have a serious yearning in my heart for the Jehovah Witnesses, when i lived in Virginia there was a group that came by about once a month and we talked for about an hour each time. We agreed on alot of stuff but the main thing that got me was Jesus being the brother of Satan and equal to Satan. They even went so far as to say Jesus was actually the archangel Michael and was not God but was a god. I am sorry but these things do not fit right and we had some pretty good discussions on this topic. Now we live in Morman Country and they avoid me like the plague, I guess they see me as a demon or something.
LOL...I totally concur. It grieves my heart for them. I respect their approach to God. They remember the "Bigness" of Him where many of us Evangelicals are doing such silly nonsense in church these days.
"I think I shall stick with my savior. He says don't judge, nor condemn. Simple enough for myself"
Believe it or not, the rest of the Bible,( the Holy Scriptures) was inspired by our Savior also....not just the red letter part! I will stick with ALL of what He inspired to be written!
If you think only the red letter parts are the doctrine of Christ, you need to study a lot more!
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If you think only the red letter parts are the doctrine of Christ, you need to study a lot more!
I have heard it all now. Thanks, but no thanks. What Jesus said, and how He lived, is ALL the example for me to live, thank you.
Your context of scripture is all over the place and you love to change the argument. He was talking about judging not condemning or judging someone's salvation. You totally turned that around.
(Matthew 7:4-5) 4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5"You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
(You can judge)
So my question to you is,,,are YOU fit to? In other words, as Paul says, do you judge another righteously, BECAUSEyou are righteous, and know the tenants of God to the point of not falling yourself,, otherwise you look like the hypocrite that Jesus was so adamantly against.
So my question to you is,,,are YOU fit to? In other words, as Paul says, do you judge another righteously, BECAUSEyou are righteous, and know the tenants of God to the point of not falling yourself,, otherwise you look like the hypocrite that Jesus was so adamantly against.
If you have a married couple as friends and one of them is cheating on the other. Would you pull him or her aside in a loving tone tell them, what they are doing is wrong and that they should stop because there could be severe consequences. That is judging
Since you are not cheating yourself, I believe you to be judging rightly
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