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Old 09-23-2009, 03:24 PM
 
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Again if he is wrong he goes to heaven anyway, but if he is right we are all judged by him (fundamentalist et al) and going straight to hell...

Obviously he is only believing in Hell to secure hope that he doesn't go there.

The conscience speaks!
Exactly ... Evil spirits are audacious and reveal their true nature. He, like many other poor deceived "Christians" are oppressed by a demonic fear of condemnation. They are not liberated in Christ, but are condemned by the law which they believe they fulfill.

I am not saying that I believe every person who believes in ET are not truly Christian ... In fact most probably are but are asleep in the wilderness without any oil and are deceived by the enemy. However, some are the very foul of the air who come to steal the message of salvation from the believers, who (the foul of the air) take refuge among the shaded branches of the mustard tree which is the church.

Fundamentalist basically claimed whether or not you believe in Jesus as your savior doesn't matter, but whether or not you believe in eternal torture does. He has made it very clear his religion is eternal torture and not Jesus the savior of the world.
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Christy. I didn't ask you all that....and as far as babies go, I see it is scripture that they are going to heaven, that's it.

I asked you could you still worship a God like that? you said, yes and that is wonderful news.

Where do you see this in scripture?
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:27 PM
 
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Thank you for your honest answer because there can only be one truth and if you are right and I am wrong I get to go to heaven anyway and if I am right and you are wrong then you are not

Dang, then if Allah is the true God your both screwed.
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:28 PM
 
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Dang, then if Allah is the true God your both screwed.
well if you know anything about Allah, Muslims are not even sure they are going to heaven and even if they get there after a few thousand years he can get tired of them and boot them into hell? That's not God but a powerful being who created us.
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Dang, then if Allah is the true God your both screwed.
Yikes! That's true! Maybe we should just say all the names of all the gods in one prayer and that will work. And believe in everything too cuz we don't wanna go wrong there either.

Yeah.. Cover all the bases!
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:32 PM
 
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If i went around believing things simply because i was afraid of the consequences if i didn't, I would be a member of every religion on the planet. I would be a Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Zoroastrian ... Etc. That is the only place that logic leads if you follow it long enough.

Gotta cover all the bases so i don't get tortured for eternity!
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Yikes! That's true! Maybe we should just say all the names of all the gods in one prayer and that will work. And believe in everything too cuz we don't wanna go wrong there either.

Yeah.. Cover all the bases!
Well how's that for sarcastically off-topic.

I think the topic was how we determine if God is wrong... So we can't because if God is ever wrong then he cannot be omni-anything.

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Old 09-23-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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Yikes! That's true! Maybe we should just say all the names of all the gods in one prayer and that will work. And believe in everything too cuz we don't wanna go wrong there either.

Yeah.. Cover all the bases!
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Dang, then if Allah is the true God your both screwed.
Thats funny ...

I was in the middle of posting the above message while you guys posted those messages, and we all came to the same conclusion ... Awesome!
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Christy. I didn't ask you all that....and as far as babies or mentally incapacitated go, I see it is scripture that they are going to heaven, that's it. if I didn't then I probably wouldn't think babies go to heaven.

I asked you could you still worship a God like that? you said, yes and that is wonderful news.

Fundy...are you avoiding my question? Where do you see this in scripture?
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:41 PM
 
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Dear God in the name of Jesus, Mary, Mohamed, Krishna, Gautama, Vishnu, Zarathustra, Zeus, Odin, Appolo, Mosses and Lucifer(some claim he is the true God after all) etc ... Please don't torture me for all eternity ... ? Did i miss any? Oh crap, I'm damned for Sure!


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