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Old 11-23-2009, 04:25 PM
 
Location: New England
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Yeah, Camps, I also remember reading once where you proclaimed you're not Christian anymore.

With all the trinity talk, have you changed your mind recently????
No foolishly i allowed myself to debate it , there's no debating that i refuse to call myself a christian
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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But, Camps, if you don't believe in the Trinity, do you seek to humanize Jesus
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: UPSTATE SC
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That seems close to defining the spirit of God as separate from God.. but Jesus was of a different substance. Right? So how does that explain Jesus being God?
Jesus, if you believe he is begotten . . . is not of a different substance. Same ingredients . . . like the cupcake.

On earth, when he walked for 33 years, he was fully human . . . . and the Holy Spirit dwelt within him, like the Holy Spirit does for many believers if they allow . . . .
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:52 PM
 
Location: UPSTATE SC
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I have to agree with this satement completely. God is one and only one.
However, Christ, the Holy Spirit are not spearate essences of God. They all comprise what is God. God has manifested Himself into Christ, the flesh, just as He manifested Himself into the helper, the Holy Spirit.

God is still one and only one, but through His grace and love for mankind, He has provided us not only a savior that we were able to see with our own eyes, but also He provided us help, that dwells in our hearts and spirit that is manifested in the Holy Spirit.

Christ is not just a man...He is a God-man.
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:55 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Jesus, if you believe he is begotten . . . is not of a different substance. Same ingredients . . . like the cupcake.

On earth, when he walked for 33 years, he was fully human . . . . and the Holy Spirit dwelt within him, like the Holy Spirit does for many believers if they allow . . . .
Trust me there is nothing you can provide that will be accepted by her. As you see and read in past post, it doesn't matter how much research that you provide she will only go as far as she see fit to understand the scriptures. But I see it strange of somone who tells others that they have to go back from where the bible was written to understand, but the one telling others to do, they don't do themselves. You see someone providing a few hebrew and greek words, but don't study the scripture in that language to understand what they are posting. I see it as an attempt to discredit what others understand, but really a bad false attempt that will eventually come to the light as it has. Over time things come to the light.
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:58 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I have to agree with this satement completely. God is one and only one.
However, Christ, the Holy Spirit are not spearate essences of God. They all comprise what is God. God has manifested Himself into Christ, the flesh, just as He manifested Himself into the helper, the Holy Spirit.

God is still one and only one, but through His grace and love for mankind, He has provided us not only a savior that we were able to see with our own eyes, but also He provided us help, that dwells in our hearts and spirit that is manifested in the Holy Spirit.

Christ is not just a man...He is a God-man.
Yes, you are right, but as you see there are some unwilling to simply let the scripture show them that. They refuse to let the Word speak for itself. To many people are reading the bible with a carnal mind and thus they are misinterpreting and misunderstaning what the bible is saying. But anyway, God said spread the Gospel, after you do that if they don't believe, then that is their error that they will have to explain later to God. After that you simply move on to people who want to actually learn truth.
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:05 PM
 
Location: New England
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but as you see there are some unwilling to simply let the scripture show them that. They refuse to let the Word speak for itself. To many people are reading the bible with a carnal mind and thus they are misinterpreting and misunderstaning what the bible is saying.
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But anyway, God said spread the Gospel, after you do that if they don't believe, then that is their error that they will have to explain later to God. After that you simply move on to people who want to actually learn truth.
What is truth ? agreeing with what you believe ?.

Truth has nothing to do with what you consider truth . Truth we as believers seek to know is the reality of God in our lives.
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:07 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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What is truth ? agreeing with what you believe ?.

Know truth is reading and believing what God provided. It has nothing to do with what I believe. What I provided before had nothing to do with what I believed, it was simply what God said and what He meant by saying it.
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:14 PM
 
Location: New England
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Know truth is reading and believing what God provided. It has nothing to do with what I believe. What I provided before had nothing to do with what I believed, it was simply what God said and what He meant by saying it.
The only truth that matters is the reality of God in our lives .
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:17 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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The only truth that matters is the reality of God in our lives .
The truth is what God said is truth. He is very clear to what He wants us to know about Himself and He says more than reality. If that is all you want then that is your choice. You say reality is important, God says that He wants a relationship with us. There is much more than reality that God wants us to know and understand, He even says that.
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