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Old 11-12-2010, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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For me all of that is irrelevant.
How? If a man dies biologically.....how can he be baptized into salvation, if the scriptures teach that can only occur whilst we are alive biologically?
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Notes taken on 1 Tim 2:4-6 from:

Greek Synonyms.
2 Peter 3:9 Commentary
Bible Dictionary notes on WILL from biblereferenceguide.com
More and more ....more

Sometimes the most intelligent thing a person can say is...."I am in over my head." It appears you may be Jerwade...I have extensively discussed this very topic in many many places, both on land, and on the net.

If this is the only rebuttal you have, you may want to bow out now.

Remember, this precise topic, I have covered in over a hundred pages of notes...spanning over years.....which I have the access to right now.
It seems the swede and I, are on the very same page, and have used very similar notes.
If it wasn't for your ego getting in the way, you might have shown some integrity through that of humility.

"An active, ongoing result of previous actions."
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Lightbulb Unified with the spirit of christ

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If they are consistent with the Bible, then the teaching should come easy and unified with the spirit of Christ.
That is why this is so powerful for those who actually read it.

KNOWING THE REAL JESUS
God is Love: God Is Love! *The Power of God's Love;*Love Your Enemies! Knowing The Real Jesus
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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If it wasn't for your ego getting in the way, you might have shown some integrity through that of humility.

"An active, ongoing result of previous actions."
Which denotes nothing in UR's favor...how hard is this? So what? People get saved from one salvific event. That is the core of the subject!

Because of Christ...now MAN CAN come to the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH. Because of Christ, God NOW DELIGHTS in man's salvation!

There are scores of papers on this specific subject, which UR never can exegetically prove their case in regards to grammar and syntax...never...I have not seen one...even tentmaker.....pure philosophical, heartfelt, jargon and rhetoric.

Can you?

PS...I really don't care about my ego or alter ego, integrity, or even humility, I care about truth, and UR, stands in the way.
Sometimes one has to get their hands dirty. I choose that role. I report.....the people decide. I don't teach.
I am not a teacher, I don't want to be, I never will be, I never claimed to be one. So please, for the sake of your integrity, stop lumping me in that category to make your rhetorical case heard. You are going off topic.
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Lightbulb Redemption in two parts

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How? If a man dies biologically.....how can he be baptized into salvation, if the scriptures teach that can only occur whilst we are alive biologically?
The idea that one can find salvation only during this life time is an unscriptural myth.

First the first fruits of election, the remnant chosen by grace out of each generation will be saved. Then all of the non-elect will be saved later.

Here are two scriptural exposition that expound that point of view.

GOD'S PLAN FOR THE AGES OF TIME
THE EONS OF THE BIBLE WITH CONCORDANCE
The eons of the Bible With Concordance, God’s purpose of the eons.

and

REDEMPTION IN TWO PARTS (a scriptural exposition)
GOD ALL IN ALL
God's Plan Of The Ages; The Purpose Of God In This Age; Redemption In Two Parts; As In Adam - So In Christ; Every Man In His Own Order; All Things In Subjection; God All In All
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I really don't care about my ego or alter ego, integrity, or even humility, I care about truth, and UR, stands in the way.
Sciotamicks, without integrity or that of humility, it's unlikely that anything said would make much of a difference, especially, when it comes to truth!
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Exclamation God delight in man's salvation

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Because of Christ, God NOW DELIGHTS in man's salvation!
And that is why all mankind will be saved.

UNIVERSAL SALVATION UNIVERSITY (not tentmaker)
Universal Salvation University
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:20 PM
 
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How? If a man dies biologically.....how can he be baptized into salvation, if the scriptures teach that can only occur whilst we are alive biologically?

Scripture please?
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Unhappy Your "truth" as i see it

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I care about truth, and UR stands in the way.
Here is your "truth" as I see it.

It’s as if the god that you profess to love says to his fallen creatures

“Unless you are lucky enough to find out about my son during this lifetime, and even if you are that lucky, if you don’t take one of the "chances" that I might give you, and if you don't have the good sense to cooperate with my son properly before you die, then when you physically die I am going to make sure that you cease to exist forever."

That is your "truth" as I see it.

Here is the truth as URs see it. (not from the tentmaker site)

ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE IN JESUS CHRIST THAT SOONER OR LATER HE WILL SAVE EVERYONE WHO NEEDS SAVING FROM EVERYTHING FROM WHICH THEY NEED TO BE SAVED.
absolute assurance in jesus christ
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Old 11-12-2010, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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Sciotamicks, without integrity or that of humility, it's unlikely that anything said would make much of a difference, especially, when it comes to truth!
I still like you though
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