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View Poll Results: is baltimore more like northern or southern cities?
yes, like Philly 105 91.30%
no, its more like Richmond, Atl 10 8.70%
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Old 11-20-2010, 03:16 PM
 
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Here is the UA areas for 2008 (all same scale) 185 miles accross

Atlanta 4.2 million



Baltimore/DC 6.3 Million



Philly 5.4 million
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Old 11-20-2010, 04:12 PM
 
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Here is the UA areas for 2008 (all same scale) 185 miles accross

Atlanta 4.2 million



Baltimore/DC 6.3 Million



Philly 5.4 million
I think it's interesting how it takes 2 cities to compare to Atlanta. I think that's a good thing for Atlanta cause obviously Baltimore cannot be compared to Atlanta alone without combining with DC.
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Old 11-20-2010, 04:21 PM
 
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I think it's interesting how it takes 2 cities to compare to Atlanta. I think that's a good thing for Atlanta cause obviously Baltimore cannot be compared to Atlanta alone without combining with DC.

This was in regards to the Developed area - Baltimore is a larger city than Atlanta as a city itself
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Old 11-20-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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I think it's interesting how it takes 2 cities to compare to Atlanta. I think that's a good thing for Atlanta cause obviously Baltimore cannot be compared to Atlanta alone without combining with DC.
Table of United States Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

DC metro area is still larger then ATL.

and even then the DMV is superior than ATL.

When the Balt-Wash region is combined (CSA), its #4 behind NYC, LA, and Chicago:

Table of United States Combined Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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Old 11-20-2010, 06:14 PM
 
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This was in regards to the Developed area - Baltimore is a larger city than Atlanta as a city itself
Yeah if you just take the city itself and ignore the appox. 380,000 people in the small area immediatley outside the city in North Fulton that refused to be incorperated.

Alpharetha 50,000
Johns Creek 70,000
Rosewell 88,000
Sandy Springs 85,600
Milton 30,000
Brookhaven 42,000

North Fulton (formally Milton Co.) is smaller than Atlanta and has nearly the same amount of people. It's like having Minniapolis (385,000), New Orleans (354,000), or Cincinnati (333,000) right outside Atlanta!

The blue area at the top is North Fulton and is by far more populated than south Fulton and some parts in Atlanta.




Not to mention other cities in the metro that have a skyline and population that can hold it's own with any city in Maryland such as Marrieta, East Point, Syrna that combined give Atlanta an MSA that is nearly the population as the whole state of Maryland!

At one point Baltimore was more urban than Atlanta. Nowadays it's just not the case. Unless you are the type of person who feels traditional cities are always more urban than sunbelt cities.



However this all started when somebody stated that Atlanta felt like a "urban suburb" compared to Baltimore. That had to be denounced. Regardless of what you "feel" to be urban. Calling either of these cities something other than urban is foolishness.

Especially when ATL is one of the top urban areas in the county... Give credit where credit is due.
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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ATL does kinda resemble the inner-suburbs of the BosWash corridor, except with tackier architecture.
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:39 AM
 
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Yeah if you just take the city itself and ignore the appox. 380,000 people in the small area immediatley outside the city in North Fulton that refused to be incorperated.

Alpharetha 50,000
Johns Creek 70,000
Rosewell 88,000
Sandy Springs 85,600
Milton 30,000
Brookhaven 42,000

North Fulton (formally Milton Co.) is smaller than Atlanta and has nearly the same amount of people. It's like having Minniapolis (385,000), New Orleans (354,000), or Cincinnati (333,000) right outside Atlanta!

The blue area at the top is North Fulton and is by far more populated than south Fulton and some parts in Atlanta.




Not to mention other cities in the metro that have a skyline and population that can hold it's own with any city in Maryland such as Marrieta, East Point, Syrna that combined give Atlanta an MSA that is nearly the population as the whole state of Maryland!

At one point Baltimore was more urban than Atlanta. Nowadays it's just not the case. Unless you are the type of person who feels traditional cities are always more urban than sunbelt cities.



However this all started when somebody stated that Atlanta felt like a "urban suburb" compared to Baltimore. That had to be denounced. Regardless of what you "feel" to be urban. Calling either of these cities something other than urban is foolishness.

Especially when ATL is one of the top urban areas in the county... Give credit where credit is due.
Are you calling these areas cities in their own? And does development stop at the edge of Baltimore?

Atlanta is what it is is but a dense urban center it is not, why dont you people just accept this and what the ATL is, it is fine but you people continually make it out to be something it is not...
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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Are you calling these areas cities in their own? And does development stop at the edge of Baltimore?

Atlanta is what it is is but a dense urban center it is not, why dont you people just accept this and what the ATL is, it is fine but you people continually make it out to be something it is not...
No... I was just showing you that dome of the most populous areas of Atlanta are not in city limits. Atlanta is a dense urban center it's just not as dense as some other cities.

I know that Baltimore deveopment does not stop ay city limits, but it stops sooner and starts tappering off faster than Atlanta as Atlanta has a larger urban enviroment.

However wheter or not Baltimore or Atlanta is more urban isn't of my interest, really (even though I think its Atlanta).

My point is that B-more does not make Atlanta or for that matter Dallas, Houston, or Miami look like a urban suburb... I'm sorry that's just false.
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:40 PM
 
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No... I was just showing you that dome of the most populous areas of Atlanta are not in city limits. Atlanta is a dense urban center it's just not as dense as some other cities.

I know that Baltimore deveopment does not stop ay city limits, but it stops sooner and starts tappering off faster than Atlanta as Atlanta has a larger urban enviroment.

However wheter or not Baltimore or Atlanta is more urban isn't of my interest, really (even though I think its Atlanta).

My point is that B-more does not make Atlanta or for that matter Dallas, Houston, or Miami look like a urban suburb... I'm sorry that's just false.
?? @ ATLien... how is baltimore not more urban than atlanta?? why do u keep using suburbs (which baltimore still has more dense suburbs) to compare "urban area" thats crazy to me. inside in the city limits on Bmore & ATL it's no comparison. the DC area has the same amount of people in a smaller urban area than ATL, does that make DC less urban than atlanta. you are using sprawl to measure urbanity..lmao!!
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Baltimore...IMHO...is more a Northeast city.
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