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View Poll Results: which city propers will be surpassed by Dallas
San Diego 40 37.38%
San Antonio 19 17.76%
Philly 40 37.38%
Phoenix 17 15.89%
all 25 23.36%
none 24 22.43%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 107. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-25-2011, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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San Jose can latch on to the Bay and be around 7M. everyone lumps it in anyway
I don't. But you already knew that from the San Jose vs Atlanta thread that took place a few months ago.
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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nearly 2.2 million people isn't small. If comparing it to DFW and all those counties in North Texas...then yea. But the 5 adjacent counties along I-35 have nearly 4 million, combined still a much smaller land area than DFW.
I forgot to add that the 5 adjacent counties you speak off span a distance of over 150 miles (assuming you included Williamson County and left out Guadeloupe)

By the way, those 5 counties don't make up 4M people, its the combination of Austin MSA- 5 counties (over 4000sq miles) and San Antonio MSA (8 Counties and over 700 sq miles) that make up the 4M people.

The area you are thinking of includes all these counties:

Atascosa,
Bandera,
Bexar,
Comal,
Guadalupe,
Kendall,
Medina,
Wilson,
Bastrop,
Caldwell,
Hays,
Travis, and
Williamson

This area is bigger than DFW by a couple thousand square miles
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Dallas can pass all of the cities but it will never be a real "city"
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:06 AM
 
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I forgot to add that the 5 adjacent counties you speak off span a distance of over 150 miles (assuming you included Williamson County and left out Guadeloupe)

By the way, those 5 counties don't make up 4M people, its the combination of Austin MSA- 5 counties (over 4000sq miles) and San Antonio MSA (8 Counties and over 700 sq miles) that make up the 4M people.

The area you are thinking of includes all these counties:

Atascosa,
Bandera,
Bexar,
Comal,
Guadalupe,
Kendall,
Medina,
Wilson,
Bastrop,
Caldwell,
Hays,
Travis, and
Williamson

This area is bigger than DFW by a couple thousand square miles

Actually it is six counties that are apart of the S.A./Austin Corridor, Bexar, comal, guadulupe, hays, travis and Williamson that follow I-35 have close to 3.6 million, if you include all the other low populated counties than it jumps to 4.0 million. These six counties count much less area than DFW. The corridor counties are growing super fast also so it wont be long before there is 5 million people along I-35 in those six adjacent counties.
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Actually it is six counties that are apart of the S.A./Austin Corridor, Bexar, comal, guadulupe, hays, travis and Williamson that follow I-35 have close to 3.6 million, if you include all the other low populated counties than it jumps to 4.0 million. These six counties count much less area than DFW. The corridor counties are growing super fast also so it wont be long before there is 5 million people along I-35 in those six adjacent counties.
those six counties stretch for 150Miles and it is not that small of an area as you would think. Bexar alone is over 1000 sq miles.
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Dallas can pass all of the cities but it will never be a real "city"
Have you ever been to this city to come up with that conclusion?
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Rio Grande Valley/Tone City
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those six counties stretch for 150Miles and it is not that small of an area as you would think. Bexar alone is over 1000 sq miles.
Its not 150 miles! San Antonio to Round Rock is 98 miles. Why do you add an extra 50 miles?

Why does it matter if Bexar is 1000 square miles? 85%-90% of the population is within 400 square miles. Density is not the discussion.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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All this population talk sometimes just gets out of hand. Cities smaller than Dallas have more outsized importance in any number of fields and population doesn't determine everything. Boston and SF, for example.

Someone mentioned Dallas being the final nail in the coffin of Philly. As if Philly is a dead or dying city. And having high-growth poor (illegal?) hispanic population in east and south and west Dallas is an asset too.

After a certain level of population, more of it is just...more. So instead of 50 Taco Bells in Dallas, in 10 years, it'll have 200. And same goes for all the other chain stores and chain restaurants.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:34 PM
 
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Dallas has a plan to make the city much more dense "Forward Dallas" and with its huge rail light rail system, subway from City Place to downtown, The McKinney Avenue Trolley, the TRE heavy rail to Fort Worth and upcoming street car lines, there will be many TODs in its future. So I think it's possible that all the other cities will be passed up. There's also another huge project to turn the Trinity River into sort of a "Central Park" bordered by high-rises. A new 23-story apartment building was announced last week in the Design District near there. And the 42-story Museum Tower condo building downtown is now under construction.

The Dallas-area is growing faster than anyone thought. We were projected to have 6.5 million in a few years and apparently we already have 6.7 million. We should be at 7 million shortly.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Its not 150 miles! San Antonio to Round Rock is 98 miles. Why do you add an extra 50 miles?

Why does it matter if Bexar is 1000 square miles? 85%-90% of the population is within 400 square miles. Density is not the discussion.
you are probably counting from the northern edge of San Antonio to the southern edge of round rock, but from the bottom of Bexar to the top of Williamson is 150miles. plus why are you stopping at RR?


It matters what size the counties are because for DFW he is including everything. The outer DFW counties are sparse too, why would you focus on one area when doing SA and Austin, but then look at all of DFW like the population there is random.

Heck the two main counties in DFW (Dallas and Tarrant) has more people than all 6 of those SA/Austin counties along 25. why are you guys trying to limit the area to two counties when it still has less people in a bigger area?
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