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This is an old version UA map; not sure where Mission Viejo fits in this map; maybe you can better describe (I think MV is the area seperated and connected to SD along the Pacific below the gap)
185 miles across
Here is Google Earth:
Mission Viejo is north of Camp Pendleton and the "buffer" it provides between San Diego and L.A.
It does not go as far west as Lancaster; does go to Reading which is connected by continuous development west of Philly
The DE and MD parts were always part of the UA of Philly, just sliver in the NE corner of MD below Wilminton DE; to the South in Cecil County MD the UA of DC is just a few miles starting at Harve de Grace and the susquahanna river
Look on the first page and the chart. Lancaster is listed by name. So, in fact, it does go that fart west in this scenario.
what is the non UA above MV on the map I post. I have driven this a few times between LA and SD but dont remember the large gap above MV
It's Irvine and the former El Toro Marine base. But since they are going to build a ton of homes (plus a park) on the former base, it's not going to be "non-urban" for long. Even today I'd call it semi-urban, since Irvine is full of planned neighborhoods.
And the Santa Ana Mountains are to the east of Mission Viejo.
Look on the first page and the chart. Lancaster is listed by name. So, in fact, it does go that fart west in this scenario.
Ah I missed that. I will say that out the route 30 corrider from West Chester to Exton to Downingtown to Coatsville to Lancaster it is continuously developed, though rather narrow.
Lancaster may actually be closer to Baltimore but there is a big gap in development heading toward baltimore that does not exist heading to Philly
Um Winter Haven is pretty much already considered part of Orlando metro.
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Orlando-Ocala-KissimmeeOrlando, FL; Ocala, FL; Kissimmee, FL; Lady Lake, FL; Leesburg-Eustis, FL1,814,061
Really Orlando all the way up to Ocala? That's a whole lot of empty land right there. And what happened to Seminole county which is already in/is metro Orlando?
And I don't at all understand the methodology but Miami apperently didn't qualify to even be listed.
It's Irvine and the former El Toro Marine base. But since they are going to build a ton of homes (plus a park) on the former base, it's not going to be "non-urban" for long. Even today I'd call it semi-urban, since Irvine is full of planned neighborhoods.
And the Santa Ana Mountains are to the east of Mission Viejo.
well then sounds like only a matter of time; I agree the stretch seems to be built out wherever it has been possible to
Back in August the US Census was conducting their studies (and taking personal responses from American people) on their new definition for "Urban Areas" (UA's). The following screenshots, are their ideas so far taken with the 2008 estimates for all the areas, so for places that saw an "undercount" at MSA & CSA level compared to their 2008 & 2009 estimates will see an "undercount" compared to this picture below too. There is definitely going to be alterations in the numbers, but nothing more than like 200,000-400,000 at the most for any of these places.
Um Winter Haven is pretty much already considered part of Orlando metro.
Really Orlando all the way up to Ocala? That's a whole lot of empty land right there. And what happened to Seminole county which is already in/is metro Orlando?
And I don't at all understand the methodology but Miami apperently didn't qualify to even be listed.
Yeah where is Miami - under the old UAs it was either 4th or 5th largest ahead of DFW, Boston, and Houston and about equal maybe even ahead of Philly
Yeah where is Miami - under the old UAs it was either 4th or 5th largest ahead of DFW, Boston, and Houston and about equal maybe even ahead of Philly
They are only mapping out new scenarios. Miami's scenario won't change therefore it's not listed. Miami's urbanized area might stretch North a county or two but there's nothing really linking it to the next nearest urban area (Orlando).
However, I can see Orlando and Tampa merging in this new scenario. The corridor on I-4 gets more developed as the years pass.
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