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Actually the highest connection among two counties was 24.8% not 1%
What I meant is that the percentage of commuters from the Philadelphia MSA to the New York MSA is probably less than 1%-and that's correct if we are to believe the census bureau.
Mercer County is an anomoly and the commuter numbers confirm that. Every other counties from NY send more than a very miniscule number of workers to Metro Philadelphia.
Anyway, China has the luxury of just doing things at will:
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In one of the most ambitious feats of urban planning to date, Chinese officials have announced plans to merge 9 sprawling cities together into one giant megacity. The super-city’s population will be a staggering 42 million — making it the largest city on earth by far.
The megapolis will span 16,000 square miles across China’s Pearl River Delta, making it larger than Greater Tokyo, and 26 times the size of Greater London. The plan is called, somewhat ominously, the “Turn the Pearl River Delta Into One,” according to London’s Telegraph.
The cities that the plans seek to unite comprise a major manufacturing region for mainland China; in total, it generates some 10% of the nation’s economy.
What I meant is that the percentage of commuters from the Philadelphia MSA to the New York MSA is probably less than 1%-and that's correct if we are to believe the census bureau.
Mercer County is an anomoly and the commuter numbers confirm that. Every other counties from NY send more than a very miniscule number of workers to Metro Philadelphia.
Anyway, China has the luxury of just doing things at will:
I think that this is yet more diminishing by China of HKs status in Asia. We've seen how much energy the Chinese central goverment has invested into getting the spotlight on Beijing and Shanghai and now we see the megacity to end all megacities being formed adjacent to the city that was once considered the only foreign gateway into China.
What I meant is that the percentage of commuters from the Philadelphia MSA to the New York MSA is probably less than 1%-and that's correct if we are to believe the census bureau.
Mercer County is an anomoly and the commuter numbers confirm that. Every other counties from NY send more than a very miniscule number of workers to Metro Philadelphia.
Anyway, China has the luxury of just doing things at will:
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That's the interesting part-HK is not included.
Its right next door.
I think that this is yet more diminishing by China of HKs status in Asia. We've seen how much energy the Chinese central goverment has invested into getting the spotlight on Beijing and Shanghai and now we see the megacity to end all megacities being formed adjacent to the city that was once considered the only foreign gateway into China.
Obviously that's just my conspiracy theory. LOL
I can chime in on this.
It's not so much that China is trying to only care for certain cities its that Hong Kong is its own country (albeit classified as an "dependent country") a dependent one at that to PRC. It's literally the red headed step child of East Asia.
Hong Kong is a place that has had a great past, a good present, but somewhat of a hazy future. It's not large enough to sustain itself as what it is, it cant have an answer for agriculture, or natural resources at all. It's economy will be prone to stagnation eventually, mainly because the mainland cities are out pacing it, immigration and all these other things cant solve their problems because as much as people will deny it but to get larger economically and become powerful you have to "grow" in which Hong Kong cant do that for too long.
It's in China's best interests to take care of its own cities before Hong Kong comes in, China is trying to bulk up its cities and make them more powerful, and they're doing a good job at it. China's a great country, despite all the flak they get they are most definitely #2 in the world, and that is without a doubt. Hong Kong, if China invested more in it, they feel it could be a disaster, Hong Kong is separate enough to where one day it may become East Asia's most powerful place and can say "we want nothing to do with you", China wont ever let that happen, so they're taking measures to make their own cities stronger off now than they will for their adopted step children (Macau & Hong Kong). Both Macau & Hong Kong have a blessing and a curse, they get classification for being their own country's and not have the hassle of taking the responsibilities of country's with China speaking for them in the United Nations and such. But it comes with a price that China wont always be there to help them when they fall on their face either.
I know I'm sort of late on this. But I noticed that in Charlotte's UA, Rock Hill, Gastonia, and Concord are combined again with Charlotte. There are a few urban clusters that need to be added, such as Statesville-Mooresville and Salisbury. They would add around 150k-250k. I'm not really sure.
well again thanks for an off task comparison - dont think I anywhere made any elusions to this area of China but interesting info
Well that wasnt really about NY-Philly and more about Urban Areas in general since this topic was about boundary changes that might occur.
Im very envious at how streamlined China is as far as development. We take years to do anything-over there, it seems like they build first and ask questions later.
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BTW you keep discussing commuter patterns in the wrong direction but ok
It's not so much that China is trying to only care for certain cities its that Hong Kong is its own country (albeit classified as an "dependent country") a dependent one at that to PRC. It's literally the red headed step child of East Asia.
Hong Kong is a place that has had a great past, a good present, but somewhat of a hazy future. It's not large enough to sustain itself as what it is, it cant have an answer for agriculture, or natural resources at all. It's economy will be prone to stagnation eventually, mainly because the mainland cities are out pacing it, immigration and all these other things cant solve their problems because as much as people will deny it but to get larger economically and become powerful you have to "grow" in which Hong Kong cant do that for too long.
It's in China's best interests to take care of its own cities before Hong Kong comes in, China is trying to bulk up its cities and make them more powerful, and they're doing a good job at it. China's a great country, despite all the flak they get they are most definitely #2 in the world, and that is without a doubt. Hong Kong, if China invested more in it, they feel it could be a disaster, Hong Kong is separate enough to where one day it may become East Asia's most powerful place and can say "we want nothing to do with you", China wont ever let that happen, so they're taking measures to make their own cities stronger off now than they will for their adopted step children (Macau & Hong Kong). Both Macau & Hong Kong have a blessing and a curse, they get classification for being their own country's and not have the hassle of taking the responsibilities of country's with China speaking for them in the United Nations and such. But it comes with a price that China wont always be there to help them when they fall on their face either.
Interesting perspective.
I think China's central government views HK as a threat precisely for the reasons you mention. I also believe that its part of their strategy to increase the importance of Beijing, Shanghai and now Guangzhou, all in part because they want to minimize HK.
Maybe because HKs success has historically been credited to its being a colony of the British crown, and China wants its own cities to be seen as important and prominent because of their own efforts, not because of the British.
I think they will use HK for what it can benefit them and turn their back on HK in favor of another city at any opportunity. You would have thought that China would have been the preeminent stock exchange in China and the place where monetary policy was decided, but we see Shanghai being a significant future threat to HK as far as as financially markets, and Beijing is where monetary policy is made.
Even worse for HK, foreign companies are quite content to totally bypass HK these days and opt for the mainland as far as expansion--at first it was just manufacturing companies, but now it has expanded to more intellectual and white collar industries.
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