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NYC and particularly Queens is a mecca for many immigrant groups. They get off the plane at JFK, imagine that they have arrived in America and never go any further.
I went by the numbers on Wiki, which says the New York Metro has 2 million Asians. After reviewing the article again, I see that they've confused the CSA stat with the Metro stat. The NYC CSA is 22 mil and the MSA is 18 mil. Wiki says the Greater Los Angeles Area is around 18 million and that Asians comprise 10.4 percent of that population. So even if you used the CSA number, I don't see how the Los Angeles CSA has more Asians than the NYC CSA.
your numbers are wrong.
LA CSA: 2.1-2.2 million asians (~12% asian)
SF Bay Area CSA: 1.5-1.6 million asians (~22% asian, which is insane)
NYC CSA: 1.8 million asians (~8% asian)
LA CSA: 2.1-2.2 million asians (~12% asian)
SF Bay Area CSA: 1.5-1.6 million asians (~22% asian, which is insane)
NYC CSA: 1.8 million asians (~8% asian)
I don't profess Wiki to be the end all-be all with regard to statistical matters, but this is what it says.
The racial markup was that 61.6% or 13,595,960 were White,16.9% or 3,727,105 were African Americans, 0.5% or 102,349 were American Indian and Alaskan Native, Asians were 9.1% or 2,008,906 overall
You can beef with that number all day. At the very least, by your own admission, the NYC CSA has more Asians than the Bay Area, so how could you say that the Bay Area outpaces NYC "by a healthy margin?"
as someone who is asian, has lived in nyc and los angeles (and grew up in the nyc metro, including in some heavily asian areas of queens and nj), has a strong familiarity with all three metros' asian communities, and who has numerous asian friends of various ethnicities in all three regions, there is no question in my mind about this.
Care to elaborate? Because the New York CSA has a larger Asian population than the Bay Area and that population is growing far more quickly.
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Originally Posted by pbergen
eh, not really. tokyo, seoul, hong kong, beijing, etc. feel much different than any american city, nyc included.
That's obvious. I don't think that's what he meant. I think he means that New York's Asian neighborhoods are the closest you'll get to an Asian city in the United States. Sorta how Flatbush Avenue is the closest you'll get to feeling like you're in the West Indies in the United States (yes, even more so than Miami). I don't think anyone would take that to mean that Brooklyn feels exactly the same as Port-au-Spain, Trinidad.
i'm not going to argue statistical facts with you when you're citing incorrect numbers. that's just absurd.
secondly, the raw total of any given population is only one measure of the "asianness" of an area. when you have as high a percentage of asians as the bay area does (roughly double the LA area and almost triple the nyc area), then it HAS to be considered a top contender for the nation's asian mecca.
at the same time, the los angeles area has a much broader representation of the various asian ethnicities compared with nyc despite being relatively weaker when it comes to south asians. there are so many different asian ethnicities whose largest overseas/u.s. population is concentrated in the LA area - more than the other two regions. that counts for a lot.
just because a given metro has most total asians doesn't automatically make it the "mecca" - you have to consider the sheer variety of different peoples/cultures, the number and scope of large ethnic enclaves (especially ones that are the largest in the country, as is the case for so many asian groups in los angeles), food, culture, media representation, immersion in local politics and the greater society at large, etc.
the bay area and the LA area are waaaaay ahead of the curve compared with anywhere in the continental u.s. (nyc included) when it comes to asian-american social/political/community/identity issues.
thirdly, have you spent significant time in los angeles and the bay area? it seems like you just took one stat on wikipedia (which you misinterpreted, btw) and now are trying to make a dubious argument based on that lone figure.
it's really incomprehensible how people could argue something like this. anyone who's familiar with the three metros knows that nyc, while certainly the third most notable area for asians in the continental u.s., isn't on the level of the bay area and the LA area in this regard.
Care to elaborate? Because the New York CSA has a larger Asian population than the Bay Area and that population is growing far more quickly.
see my reply to your previous post.
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That's obvious. I don't think that's what he meant. I think he means that New York's Asian neighborhoods are the closest you'll get to an Asian city in the United States. Sorta how Flatbush Avenue is the closest you'll get to feeling like you're in the West Indies in the United States (yes, even more so than Miami). I don't think anyone would take that to mean that Brooklyn feels exactly the same as Port-au-Spain, Trinidad.
i know exactly what he meant. and his statement simply isn't true.
to suggest that nyc's asian neighborhoods are the closest you'll get to an asian city in the u.s. is an extremely dubious statement, and makes me wonder how familiar you are with these cities. i've been to seoul, tokyo, hong kong, beijing, shanghai, taipei, and bangkok, and believe me, none of them are even remotely like anything in nyc. they're just not.
how many of these cities have you visited? do you have family and close friends like i do in these cities who've shown me around the non-touristy/local spots?
again, i think you just saw one stat on wikipedia (which you misinterpreted!) and are now trying to run with that.
Care to elaborate? Because the New York CSA has a larger Asian population than the Bay Area and that population is growing far more quickly.
That's obvious. I don't think that's what he meant. I think he means that New York's Asian neighborhoods are the closest you'll get to an Asian city in the United States. Sorta how Flatbush Avenue is the closest you'll get to feeling like you're in the West Indies in the United States (yes, even more so than Miami). I don't think anyone would take that to mean that Brooklyn feels exactly the same as Port-au-Spain, Trinidad.
Subjectivity more so than fact.
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) and now are trying to make a dubious argument based on that lone figure.
