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San Francisco and the Bay Area may be more Asian by percentage, but I think Southern California has a more diversified Asian population, while SF is more dominated by Chinese. Without going into statistics (I do know both have areas that are over 50% Asian, such as in Orange County for instance), do you think either is more of the 'Asian hub' in the US than the other? I haven't been to SF but certain neighbourhoods in the LA area did feel pretty Asian (Koreatown, of course).
Have not read the thread yet, but it caught my eye because we lived in both San Francisco as well as the San Gabriel Valley; while living in the SGV, I was told that in California all but one of the cities (San Francisco) with the highest number and percentage of Asian residents were in southern California, with most of them (all, perhaps?) in the San Gabriel Valley, which is very heavily Chinese.
I'd probably give the edge to the Bay Area for its historical prominence and high visibility, but it's close, and I think one could easily make an argument for LA based on numbers and other major contemporary factors; financial, for example.
I think it's more fair to simply say that California as a whole is a hub for "Asian" culture in the United States.
The most Filipino Metro in California is Solano County(Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA)
Filipino Population, 2010 Census & Percentage to Total Population
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA 52,641 12.5% San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA 287,879 6.6%
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA 182,248 5.8%
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MA 105,403 5.7%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 463,626 3.6%
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville, CA MSA 73,866 3.3%
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA MSA 25,103 3.0%
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 117,928 2.7%
Bakersfield-Delano, CA MSA 20,296 2.4%
Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Goleta, CA MSA 9,693 2.2%
Fresno, CA MSA 13,491 1.4%
But then there's:
Filipino Population, 2010 Census & Percentage to Total Population
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA 52,641 12.5%
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA 287,879 6.6%
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA 182,248 5.8%
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MA 105,403 5.7%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 463,626 3.6%
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville, CA MSA 73,866 3.3%
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA MSA 25,103 3.0%
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 117,928 2.7%
Bakersfield-Delano, CA MSA 20,296 2.4%
Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Goleta, CA MSA 9,693 2.2%
Fresno, CA MSA 13,491 1.4%
In terms of the topic, I would find it difficult to believe a claim that Vallejo is a larger hub for Filipino cultura than Los Angeles is since the percentages hide the fact that the LA MSA has about nine times the Filipino population.
Have not read the thread yet, but it caught my eye because we lived in both San Francisco as well as the San Gabriel Valley; while living in the SGV, I was told that in California all but one of the cities (San Francisco) with the highest number and percentage of Asian residents were in southern California, with most of them (all, perhaps?) in the San Gabriel Valley, which is very heavily Chinese.
I'd probably give the edge to the Bay Area for its historical prominence and high visibility, but it's close, and I think one could easily make an argument for LA based on numbers and other major contemporary factors; financial, for example.
I think it's more fair to simply say that California as a whole is a hub for "Asian" culture in the United States.
I doubt that. Daly City (pop. 101,123) is 55.6% asian, Cupertino (pop. 58,302) is 63.3% asian, San Jose (pop. 1,056,892) is 32% asian, etc. Not different at all numbers wise or percentage wise from the San Gabriel valley.
Filipino Population, 2010 Census & Percentage to Total Population
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA 52,641 12.5%
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA 287,879 6.6%
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA 182,248 5.8%
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MA 105,403 5.7%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 463,626 3.6%
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville, CA MSA 73,866 3.3%
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA MSA 25,103 3.0%
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 117,928 2.7%
Bakersfield-Delano, CA MSA 20,296 2.4%
Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Goleta, CA MSA 9,693 2.2%
Fresno, CA MSA 13,491 1.4%
And then there's also:
Filipino Population, 2010 Census & Percentage to Total Population
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA 52,641 12.5%
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA 287,879 6.6%
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA 182,248 5.8%
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MA 105,403 5.7%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 463,626 3.6%
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville, CA MSA 73,866 3.3%
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA MSA 25,103 3.0%
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 117,928 2.7%
Bakersfield-Delano, CA MSA 20,296 2.4%
Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Goleta, CA MSA 9,693 2.2%
Fresno, CA MSA 13,491 1.4%
Which puts the Bay Area Filipino population without including some of its other metros at 445,923. The Filipino population is more visible in the Bay period.
The most Filipino Metro in California is Solano County(Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA)
Filipino Population, 2010 Census & Percentage to Total Population
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA 52,641 12.5%
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA 287,879 6.6%
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA 182,248 5.8%
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MA 105,403 5.7%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 463,626 3.6%
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville, CA MSA 73,866 3.3%
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA MSA 25,103 3.0%
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 117,928 2.7%
Bakersfield-Delano, CA MSA 20,296 2.4%
Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Goleta, CA MSA 9,693 2.2%
Fresno, CA MSA 13,491 1.4%
I think percentages are OK and useful in some circumstances, but the L.A. metro has almost half a million filipinos. Surely that would put it in the "hub" category? Yes, Vallejo/Fairfield has a higher percentage but L.A. has basically 9x the absolute numbers. And there are places within L.A. such as Eagle Rock right near where I live that are definite hubs (including Seafood King supermarkets and Jolly Bees).
I think percentages are OK and useful in some circumstances, but the L.A. metro has almost half a million filipinos. Surely that would put it in the "hub" category? Yes, Vallejo/Fairfield has a higher percentage but L.A. has basically 9x the absolute numbers. And there are places within L.A. such as Eagle Rock right near where I live that are definite hubs (including Seafood King supermarkets and Jolly Bees).
Notice the population numbers for the SF and SJ metros below it... that's not including all of the metros that make up the Bay Area either.
Filipino Population, 2010 Census & Percentage to Total Population
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA 52,641 12.5%
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA 287,879 6.6%
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA 182,248 5.8%
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MA 105,403 5.7%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 463,626 3.6%
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville, CA MSA 73,866 3.3%
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA MSA 25,103 3.0%
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 117,928 2.7%
Bakersfield-Delano, CA MSA 20,296 2.4%
Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Goleta, CA MSA 9,693 2.2%
Fresno, CA MSA 13,491 1.4%
Which puts the Bay Area Filipino population without including some of its other metros at 445,923. The Filipino population is more visible in the Bay period.
Well, he went MSA, so I did, too. Obviously, there's a large population in the surrounding counties especially close to the LA MSA borders (and puts LA significantly ahead in overal numbers; it becomes very skewed if we include San Diego as southern California). The point was that such a narrow selection of stats for percentage points doesn't always make sense.
I'm not sure why you think the Filipino population is more visible in the Bay Area (with a final addition of a period). There's a very large Filipino community and it's very visible. How is the Bay Area one "more" visible? I think the communities are about equal both currently and historically.
Filipino Population, 2010 Census & Percentage to Total Population
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA 52,641 12.5%
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA 287,879 6.6%
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA 182,248 5.8%
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MA 105,403 5.7%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 463,626 3.6%
Sacramento-Arden Arcade-Roseville, CA MSA 73,866 3.3%
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA MSA 25,103 3.0%
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 117,928 2.7%
Bakersfield-Delano, CA MSA 20,296 2.4%
Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Goleta, CA MSA 9,693 2.2%
Fresno, CA MSA 13,491 1.4%
In terms of the topic, I would find it difficult to believe a claim that Vallejo is a larger hub for Filipino cultura than Los Angeles is since the percentages hide the fact that the LA MSA has about nine times the Filipino population.
I do understand the importance of sheer number, but imo, the fact that1 out of every 8 persons in Solano County is Filipino really overwhelms the fact that only 3 out of every 100 persons in the LA Metro is Filipino.
I do understand the importance of sheer number, but imo, the fact that1 out of every 8 persons in Solano County is Filipino really overwhelms the fact that only 3 out of every 100 persons in the LA Metro is Filipino.
However the Filipinos in the L.A. metro are not spread out evenly. So those numbers get lumped into the "LA metro" numbers, but it ignores significant "hubs" of Filipinos in certain cities within L.A.
These cities aren't broken up into many different metros like the Bay Area is, so it's more difficult to get specific breakdowns within "L.A./Long Beach/Santa Ana".
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