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Are you saying that people of a specific race or ethnic group can only have a sense of community and kinship if they are separated into ethnoburbs or ethnoslums?
We just dont see it that way up north.
This is where the clear difference in mentality about race, ethnicity and diversity between Northern California and basically everywhere else in the country really manifests itself.
Never mind, it is apparent you are being purposefully obtuse and changing arguments.
You fail to acknowledge the very large "Asian" hubs in L.A. because the individuals are "spread across a big metro", and then in the same breath say L.A. is so segregated into "ethnoburbs" and "ethnoslums".
NY is also woefully underrepresented in that ranking as well. DC is totally absent.
Again, who cares? Why does a wealthier person mean it's somehow better? The Bay Area is known for being very integrated...there's no question about that...but why does that somehow add to its diversity?
Never mind, it is apparent you are being purposefully obtuse and changing arguments.
You fail to acknowledge the very large "Asian" hubs in L.A. because the individuals are "spread across a big metro", and then in the same breath say L.A. is so segregated into "ethnoburbs" and "ethnoslums".
I'm done.
You really can't even use the 'we have millions of people' argument either.
At the end of the day, we're talking 2.1 Million Asians in LA vs 1.6 Million Asians in the Bay Area and that is hardly a massive difference--and as far as proportion, 1 in 4 persons in the Bay Area is Asian or Asian mixed with another race.
Furthermore, as far as your point about segregation vs diaspora, I was not being obtuse in the least.
I do not believe that you have to be quarantined into ethnoburbs or ethnoslums in order to feel a sense of community with your people and we see this in play around the Bay Area every day.
You said that LA was handicapped vs the Bay Area due to lower educational attainment rates and that's what thing, but what's NYs excuse?
Asians are more prominent everywhere in the Bay Area. Even in rich areas that elsewhere would be almost all White.
Russian Hill is a mini-Upper West Side and Hillsborough is one of the few places that I would consider a West Coast equivalent to Greenwich due to the old money and society elite that is concentrated there.
And in both places, Asians are prominent. Not just in ethnoburbs and the like.
That's a very powerful statement that I dont think exists anywhere else in the US yet.
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The Bay Area is known for being very integrated...there's no question about that...but why does that somehow add to its diversity?
Socio-economic diversity most definitely adds to the overall diversity imo.
You really can't even use the 'we have millions of people' argument either.
At the end of the day, we're talking 2.1 Million Asians in LA vs 1.6 Million Asians in the Bay Area and that is hardly a massive difference--and as far as proportion, 1 in 4 persons in the Bay Area is Asian or Asian mixed with another race.
Half a million is a pretty large number, isn't it? 30% more is a significant percentage more, isn't it?
Half a million is a pretty large number, isn't it? 30% more is a significant percentage more, isn't it?
Its not nearly enough of a difference to really impress me. the LA CSA would need 4.4 Million Asians or Asians mixed with other races to truly rival the Bay Area as far as Asian penetration of the entire region.
Until then, we will continue to agree to disagree.
while living in the SGV, I was told that in California all but one of the cities (San Francisco) with the highest number and percentage of Asian residents were in southern California, with most of them (all, perhaps?) in the San Gabriel Valley, which is very heavily Chinese.
Whoever told you that is wrong. Northern California (the Bay Area, specifically) has many cities with large Asian populations.
Cities with around 20% or more asian residents, in the Bay Area:
Cupertino - 63.3%
Milpitas - 62.2%
Daly City - 55.6%
Union City - 50.6%
Fremont - 50.6%
Hercules - 45.5%
Foster City - 45.0%
Millbrae - 42.8%
Saratoga - 41.4%
Sunnyvale - 40.9%
Santa Clara - 37.7%
South San Francisco - 36.6%
San Ramon - 35.6%
Colma - 34.5%
San Francisco - 33.3%
American Canyon - 32.9%
San Jose - 32.0%
Alameda - 31.2%
Albany - 31.2%
San Leandro - 29.7%
Hillsborough - 28.1%
Emeryville - 27.5%
Newark - 27.2%
Palo Alto - 27.1%
Dublin - 26.8%
Los Altos Hills - 26.6%
Mountain View - 26.0%
San Bruno - 25.4%
Brisbane - 25.3%
Vallejo - 24.9%
Los Altos - 23.5%
Pleasanton - 23.2%
Pinole - 22.9%
Hayward - 22.0%
Burlingame - 20.3%
Belmont - 19.9%
Berkeley - 19.3%
Pacifica - 19.4%
Suisun City - 19.0%
San Mateo - 18.9%
Cities with around 20% or more asian residents, in the San Gabriel Valley:
Monterey Park - 66.9%
Walnut - 63.6%
San Gabriel - 60.7%
Rosemead - 60.7%
Rowland Heights - 59.8%
Arcadia - 59.2%%
Temple City - 55.7%
San Marino - 53.5%
Diamond Bar - 52.5%
South San Gabriel - 49.4%
North El Monte - 38.6%
Mayflower Village - 31.4%
South Pasadena - 31.1%
Bradbury - 26.3%
East Pasadena - 25.9%
La Cañada Flintridge - 25.8%
West Covina - 25.8%
El Monte - 25.1%
Honestly, the numbers seem to back up the fact that LA overall has more concentrated ethnic enclaves, whereas the Bay Area overall has a little more integration between various ethnicities. The Bay has over twice as many cities with significant asian populations, compared to the San Gabriel Valley....though the San Gabriel Valley does have more cities with 50%+ asian populations, and it has the 1st, 2nd, and 5th most asian cities in California, wheras the Bay Area has the 3rd and 4th most Asian in the state.
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