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Old 02-03-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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what, are you kidding? You know philadelphia beats san francisco. Always has, always will.
Absolutely not!
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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He also doesn't have Chicago on there, so Philly not being on there really isn't that surprising, is it?
Specifically downtown cores, not neighborhoods or downtown adjacent.
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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It makes me proud to see Milwaukee as #10, as someone who lives here. It is extremely underrated. SO much potential! It reminds me of a mini-version of Philedelphia's downtown.
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Old 02-03-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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This list is generally true with the exception of Detroit and Milwaukee. I would replace either with Indianapolis or Atlanta. Evidently people conducting this list have never been to downtown Detroit. It has changed for the better in many aspects, but the rest of the city is still awful. A city's downtown core does not necessarily exemplify the city as a whole. Downtown Seattle, San Fran or Phily are my favorite downtowns.
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Old 02-03-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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And I have a hard time believing Detroit made the list when other better downtowns like Indianapolis, Pittsburgg or Portland, OR did not.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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This list is generally true with the exception of Detroit and Milwaukee. I would replace either with Indianapolis or Atlanta. Evidently people conducting this list have never been to downtown Detroit. It has changed for the better in many aspects, but the rest of the city is still awful. A city's downtown core does not necessarily exemplify the city as a whole. Downtown Seattle, San Fran or Phily are my favorite downtowns.
But I believe that list was talking specifically about downtown's. NOT the rest of the city, so that comment you made about the rest of the city is completely irrelevant to the whole "downtown" topic.
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
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It's SHOCKING to me how many people excluded LA altogether from their top 10. To me LA is firmly in the top 6.

1: NYC
2: Chicago
3: DC
4: San Fran
5: Philly
6: LA
7: Boston
8: Seattle
9: Houston
10: Detroit
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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DC must have REALLY changed in the last 10 years to be ranked 2nd. I haven't been there since 2001 so maybe it has... But it is pretty surprising in the 2 slot.
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Old 02-04-2012, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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DC must have REALLY changed in the last 10 years to be ranked 2nd. I haven't been there since 2001 so maybe it has... But it is pretty surprising in the 2 slot.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:36 PM
 
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Milwaukee is definitely surprising. I went there just shortly for a concert at the Bradley Center and drove around afterwards. Really interesting and vibrant, even at 10 PM on a weeknight in November. I definitely want to go back there.

Detroit, on the other hand, does not belong up there. I used to live in the area and my brother lives downtown Detroit. If it was a list of the places with the top ten number of abandoned skyscrapers or aggressive panhandlers, it would be right up there. There are many other cities that I have been to that are more vibrant and fun to visit, yet not on the list (Denver, Salt Lake City, Columbus, Atlanta). I think someone just felt sorry for Detroit. I can't think of another reason it would be on there.
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