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Old 10-10-2023, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I'm curious- If you count Inner Harbor, harbor east, dells point, Camden Yards & Mt. Vernon for a cohesive "core" for Baltimore, or the "Greater downtown" area would it be top 12?
I would say thats all the core. But Downtown is pretty distinct and well defined.
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Old 10-10-2023, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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You’re telling me Major Park, Crestwood, Brookland, Langdon etc are very much not the CBD.

You’re either stupid are you think we are stupid if you are saying Downtown DC is 31 sq miles
No, I just posted the edge of Rock Creek Park and the Anacostia River because you referenced it. I have always said DC's urban core is about 25 sq. miles from Columbia Heights south to the Anacostia River banks and Georgetown east to the Anacostia River banks. Obviously Crestwood, Brookland, and Langdon aren't in that footprint.
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Old 10-10-2023, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Yeah, that's a pretty big difference in the way they feel. DC's most urban and intensely built high-rise neighborhoods tend to be very similar which is why I say Downtown DC visually covers half the city now.

Penn Quarter

Golden Triangle

NOMA Not Downtown

Union Market Not Downtown

Navy Yard Not Downtown

The Wharf Not Downtown

Mt. Vernon Triangle
In my opinion, only three of these places are visually and/or practically consistent with Downtown DC.

Albeit the difference isnt AS stark as the difference between Fenway and Seaport or Downtown Boston.
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Old 10-10-2023, 02:51 PM
 
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No, I just posted the edge of Rock Creek Park and the Anacostia River because you referenced it. I have always said DC's urban core is about 25 sq. miles from Columbia Heights south to the Anacostia River banks and Georgetown east to the Anacostia River banks. Obviously Crestwood, Brookland, and Langdon aren't in that footprint.
You said 1/2 the city is built like downtown DC that is just totally false. The urban core as you’d define it for like Boston or Philly is like ~4 sq miles or so
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Old 10-10-2023, 02:53 PM
 
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In my opinion, only three of these places are visually and/or practically consistent with Downtown DC.
If you scoot around the corner in basically any of those pics you look down streets that are 2-3 floor buildings
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Old 10-10-2023, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Even then the very limit of neighborhoods dominated by 8-10ish floor buildings is like 4 Sq miles. Other than that it’s a couple main roads.

There is like a Mike of two floor set back Rowhomes between the Navy Yard and Downturn DC they are clearly not the same place


If you measure everything from the corner of Massachusetts Avenue NW and Florida Avenue NW down to the Convention Center, then the Convention Center up New York Avenue NW till Union Market, then down to Union Station, then down to Constitution Avenue NW, then over to 23rd Street NW, then around the edge of Foggy Bottom and around the edge of the Golden Triangle up to the corner of Massachusetts Avenue NW and Florida Avenue NW, I get an area of 8.44 sq. miles on google.

Do it yourself to see. That is excluding all of Logan Circle, Shaw, Eckington, Navy Yard, Buzzard Point, the Wharf, and SW/L'Enfant Plaza, and H Street/Atlas District.
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Old 10-10-2023, 03:01 PM
 
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If you scoot around the corner in basically any of those pics you look down streets that are 2-3 floor buildings
Ive been to these places many times- Penn Quarter and Golden Triangle do feel like the edges of Downtown. Downtown definitely does not pass New Jersey Avenue. No sir.

Downtown DC is basically:

P Street to the North.

Pennylvannia Ave to the South

25th Street to the West

3rd Street to the East.
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Old 10-10-2023, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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If you scoot around the corner in basically any of those pics you look down streets that are 2-3 floor buildings
Where? Are those places still in the neighborhood? Better yet, are those places staying or being knocked down?
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Old 10-10-2023, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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If you measure everything from the corner of Massachusetts Avenue NW and Florida Avenue NW down to the Convention Center, then the Convention Center up New York Avenue NW till Union Market, then down to Union Station, then down to Constitution Avenue NW, then over to 23rd Street NW, then around the edge of Foggy Bottom and around the edge of the Golden Triangle up to the corner of Massachusetts Avenue NW and Florida Avenue NW, I get an area of 8.44 sq. miles on google.

Do it yourself to see. That is excluding all of Logan Circle, Shaw, Eckington, Navy Yard, Buzzard Point, the Wharf, and SW/L'Enfant Plaza, and H Street/Atlas District.
I've got DC at ~1.7 square miles downtown. I think... America's Top 10 Downtown's-screenshot-22-.png
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Old 10-10-2023, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Ive been to these places many times- Penn Quarter and Golden Triangle do feel like the edges of Downtown. Downtown definitely does not pass New Jersey Avenue. No sir.

Downtown DC is basically:

P Street to the North.

Pennylvannia Ave to the South

25th Street to the West

3rd Street to the East.
So what are these areas? Suburbs?

South of Pennsylvania Avenue

East of 3rd Street

Wayyyy east of 3rd Street
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