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I think this is a common stereotype of the East and West Coast and they just don't seem to jive that well. There's a lot of podunk in small California cities and many of the further inland communities are like that. I found large parts of LA where I grew up to be incredibly stuffy and uninteresting--though LA does have some great parts. I really don't feel like there's a huge change in how concerned people are about other's perceptions of themselves. In a funny way, it's just as awkwardly self-conscious to try to single oneself out as from the West Coast and therefore relaxed and not concerned about how people perceive you as just the basic driver for having to mention that is a concern for how people perceive you.
What are you really getting at?
TBH, I couldn't live in a place that didn't have the aspiration, persona, and mentality of what it takes or feels like to be #1. I'm a coastal purist and to me everywhere is flyover country sans NYC, LA, SF Bay Area, and Miami. Other places that have the persona, pride, ego, mentality to be at the top are New England, Seattle region, Texas, and Chicagoland. These are also the areas that after NYC and California control the interests of the rest of the country by cos power, cultural influence, trends, brand recognition, power, influence, GDP, politics, etc.
The rest of the US just feels depressing submissive, uninfluential, untrendy personas especially the midwest sans Chicagoland IMO.
TBH, I couldn't live in a place that didn't have the aspiration, persona, and mentality of what it takes or feels like to be #1. I'm a coastal purist and to me everywhere is flyover country sans NYC, LA, SF Bay Area, and Miami. Other places that have the persona, pride, ego, mentality to be at the top are New England, Seattle region, Texas, and Chicagoland. These are also the areas that after NYC and California control the interests of the rest of the country by cos power, cultural influence, trends, brand recognition, power, influence, GDP, politics, etc.
The rest of the US just feels depressing with its declining, dying, submissively put in their place, uninfluential, untrendy personas IMO. Sorry bruh, I cant do it, cant ever live anywhere else besides those places mentioned earlier on.
I don't think what you're saying has anything to do with what I said or what 18Montclair said about being relaxed or not worrying about other people's perceptions. Why are you quoting me?
I don't think what you're saying has anything to do with what I said or what 18Montclair said about being relaxed or not worrying about other people's perceptions. Why are you quoting me?
Which is why I asked you what point you're trying to make?
I understood his point but not yours, California is no where near as image conscious as the eastern seaboard. LA ranking towards the bottom doesn't bare any cut as the city is still a draw for the creative types from those same eastern towns the hate stems from. It's live-let-live. I've always found NYC to be very image focused as well as Miami and Boston to a lesser extent. Which I could understand why, you skipped over the part where I was talking about what the aspirations to be #1 are like to these places. That's the east, in the west it's live-let-live and innovation. California has constantly reinvented itself after every bust through the same creatives that flock here from places that hold our state in heavy disdain.
There is a different mentality between being a achiever in NYC, Miami, or Boston and being an achiever in LA, SF Bay Area, or Seattle.
Which is why I asked you what point you're trying to make?
I understood his point but not yours, California is no where near as image conscious as the eastern seaboard. LA ranking towards the bottom doesn't bare any cut as the city is still a draw for the creative types from those same eastern towns the hate stems from. It's live-let-live. I've always found NYC to be very image focused as well as Miami and Boston to a lesser extent. Which I could understand why, you skipped over the part where I was talking about what the aspirations to be #1 are like to these places. That's the east, in the west it's live-let-live and innovation. California has constantly reinvented itself after every bust through the same creatives that flock here from places that hold our state in heavy disdain.
There is a different mentality between being a achiever in NYC, Miami, or Boston and being an achiever in LA, SF Bay Area, or Seattle.
That the level of image-consciousness is about the same, and it does take effort to cultivate an image of not being image-conscious.
I thought his points were fantastic as well. I know you're being sarcastically humorous but really he made fine points.
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Chicago is an elite player in the global economy.
Not as elite as LA.
2011 GDP
1 New York CSA $1.463 Trillion
2 Los Angeles CSA $902.8 Billion
3 Washington DC CSA $587.1 Billion
4 San Francisco CSA $569.5 Billion
5 Chicago CSA $553.6 Billion
LA's economy has a larger impact on the world and you speak of LA as if it's devoid of any corporate power or influence. Aside from the economy, LA's got a bigger hand as the cultural exporter of the US, that cant be ranked by GDP but overshadows Chicago's cultural contributions to the rest of the world.
LA's economy has a larger impact on the world and you speak of LA as if it's devoid of any corporate power or influence. Aside from the economy, LA's got a bigger hand as the cultural exporter of the US, that cant be ranked by GDP but overshadows Chicago's cultural contributions to the rest of the world.
I made a post to Chandler already. I received no response to it, so let's try you.
Shanghai's GDP is larger than Hong Kong and Singapore's. Is it more important?
Another point, the CME Group owns and manages Chicago MEX, CBOT, NYMEX, and Dow Industrial. The city also happens to be the global leader in trade derivatives and not only the financial socket to the markets in the east and west but also the logistical leader of those same markets.
Step away from GDP and manufacturing, that latter of which Chicago while not as large as LA still manages to do exceedingly well. So what exactly is putting LA so over the top here? I agree it's more important overall but it's in the same tier. What puts it above though?
But downtown1, why isn't Shanghai above Hong Kong or Singapore? It's more than twice the size and has the larger GDP. It's also the "cultural exporter" of China, the largest most populated country in the world. LOL
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