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The Olympics?Football?Are you serious?Even in Spain and Italy the teams are diverse.How is that proof the countr is safer because its divers?that makes NO sense whatsoever.You guys really aredrinking the "kool aid"(refer to Jim Jones incident for that remark)
On a visit to America in February, the president of Georgia, Mikheil Saakashvili, said:
Bank of America fmr Chairman(Morehouse College graduate and former President-Its a highly regarded HBCU in Atlanta with many famous graduates like Spike Lee,Samuel L Jackson,Lawrence Fishbrn,Martin Luther King and Herman Cain to name a small portion of world famous grauates):
Massachussets Governor
Louisanna Governor
Ontario Province Premier
You guys are clueless.You gotta be younger than 30 and grew up well off because you attitude is one of just oblivious to what many other blacks face.May I ask are you a dark skinned Afro-Canadian/Caribean Canadian or light skinned.
Not an insult aimed at you or anyway.Just curious about how you are viewed and how you view yourself and and why?
I dont mind answering those questions about myself if you want me too.
That premier of Ontario you posted is openly gay by the way. That also accounts to diversity if you weren't aware. Thanks for posting.
I'm dark skinned Afro-Canadian. Both parents are fully black. Why do you ask?
The video of officers shooting a teen on the Toronto streetcar does say a lot. I agree
Similar to what happened in Atlanta a few years ago, but what happened in Atlanta was worse as cops shot a 92 year old woman and tried to cover it up.
There's no equivalent to a place like Atlanta, which is dominate black and a huge thriving metropolis. Even a place like El Paso that is dominate Hispanic and thrives. Most European countries are very racist even more so in today's world. The US has lingering issues but no country works as hard at it and has advanced more quickly. We have the hardest time with kids from lower class areas succeeding in general, middle class kids of all races have a pretty level playing field for success.
Exactly.Race is openly discussed.In Canada they act like it does not exist
What's the point of your trolling? There are white people in charge of American companies too. And there are non-whites in charge of Canadian companies. In fact, the CEO of my company is an immigrant from China.
And your posting of a non-white being shot by the cops is stupid. Non-whites are shot by cops in the USA all the time.
Indeed it is you who is clueless.
So Im trolling because I mentioned theses issues?As a black man when visiting or even moving somewhere race is a constant concern .I have no doubt that in any Western country a minority that wants to make it,they can.
The fact that you somehow equivilating a white persons "struggles" with blacks is even more telling and proves my point.Di you even read the statistic earlier about the hogher rates of being arrested if you are black or an minority?Or thats just me trolling?
I would never deny that the U.S. has a terribly embarrassing issue with its gun culture.It makes me sick.Im not an anti gun person but the way people "cling" to them is mind boggling.
I don't have a problem with Chinese but even some of my Chinese friends in Montreal and Toronto will tell you,many Chinese people are racist.Even in that link early with a map of most racist conuntries,India and China were the leaders.Some places in most Chinatowns all over can be an eye opener on occasion if you are black.
Some decent points have been made that we do need to improve the number of visible minorities in leadership roles in our society... that representation is low and an improvement in their earning capacity is desirable - which will happen in time - we still are a new multicultural/ethnic/racial society so not that shocking... lotsa FOBS here.. but yeah, the U.S is far from a utopic society for racial equality or even socioeconomic equality..and violence is a real problem in many U.S cities where 100's of young people in each are getting shot to death - thousands and thousands are murdered every year.. The shrinking middle class should be a huge cause for concern in both countries.. Certainly a lot of throwing stones in glass houses going on... yeah some pretty wacky things have been said to me here.. like the reason Toronto didn't get the Olympics are due to 'painful' realities lol.... - what is that supposed to mean...as if Toronto is Nazi German or that I don't sleep at night because Toronto lost the Olympics in 1996 to Atlanta... BIG DEAL... nobody in Toronto cares about that!!
Yeh its a problem but its not so bad that minorities cannot be held in high positions more than in Canada in SPITE of all those terrible issue of crime.
Did you know that there are black predominately historically black neighborhoods in D.C.and Atlanta that are where black millionaires live in high concentrations?D.C.then Atlanta have THE highest concentration of black millionaires than any other city in the U.S. in numbers and percentages.
There are also neighborhoods in other cities as well.
Look we have problem with race in the U.S. that needs addressing of course but in spite of all adversity Black Americans have persevered.
The far majority are not in poverty however this is not the common thought about blacks in Canda or the U.S.
Here is a great video about The Black Upperclass in America.Hits on class and race.
Yeh its a problem but its not so bad that minorities cannot be held in high positions more than in Canada in SPITE of all those terrible issue of crime.
Did you know that there are black predominately historically black neighborhoods in D.C.and Atlanta that are where black millionaires live in high concentrations?D.C.then Atlanta have THE highest concentration of black millionaires than any other city in the U.S. in numbers and percentages.
There are also neighborhoods in other cities as well.
Look we have problem with race in the U.S. that needs addressing of course but in spite of all adversity Black Americans have persevered.
The far majority are not in poverty however this is not the common thought about blacks in Canda or the U.S.
Here is a great video about The Black Upperclass in America.Hits on class and race.
We also have some of the poorest black neighborhoods,but of course those are more well known more than the wealthy areas.
One thing though...
There has been a Black and overall minority population (larger in population and in percentages) in the U.S. far longer than there has been in Canada.
As far as Blacks go there are nearly 40 million (about 13% of the pop.) in the U.S.
Canada in comparison has just under 1 million Blacks (about 2-3 % of the pop.).
With different historical patterns, percentages, and population numbers you will have different results for Blacks and all minorities in both countries.
I have no doubt there are definitely Black upper class areas in DC, Atlanta and so on. This is all based on what I just mentioned.
There has been a Black and overall minority population (larger in population and in percentages) in the U.S. far longer than there has been in Canada.
As far as Blacks go there are nearly 40 million (about 13% of the pop.) in the U.S.
Canada in comparison has just under 1 million Blacks (about 2-3 % of the pop.).
With different historical patterns, percentages, and population numbers you will have different results for Blacks and all minorities in both countries.
I have no doubt there are definitely Black upper class areas in DC, Atlanta and so on. This is all based on what I just mentioned.
Do you know the first black millionaire in Canada goes back farther than in the U.S.?
Mainly because of slavery abolished earlier.
Did you read the other link I posted about the PERCENTAGES of blacks in political power in certain government/Political positions in Canada?You guy keep ignoring so many percentage because you are too busy trying to defend it by suggesting its the amount of time rather than face the fact that its still a significant problem.
You work in public sector.Its the same in the U.S. with blacks and minorities in government being well overly represented.I even wonder why there are not more white people in those types of jobs.then you realize the higher you go up it more white.
Thats where the differences splits.In Canada who dont see as many minorities and especially blacks in those higher positions.Yet you see more everyday workers in the field so to speak or public eye than you do in supervisor position.Much lower than those in America
Even though this is where you guys have more of diversity in the higher echelon, its not as often as it is by PERCENTAGES as it is in America.
I think I saw maybe one black head judges on the Court of Justice in Ontario,I could be wrong.feel free to correct me.I don't claim to know Canadian politics that well.Especially Provencal politics.
Houston does this well and even Houston is not the best in the U.S. in this regard.This is what I said before I heard everyone downplaying and started attacking how thing are in America as a defense.
There has been a Black and overall minority population (larger in population and in percentages) in the U.S. far longer than there has been in Canada.
As far as Blacks go there are nearly 40 million (about 13% of the pop.) in the U.S.
Canada in comparison has just under 1 million Blacks (about 2-3 % of the pop.).
With different historical patterns, percentages, and population numbers you will have different results for Blacks and all minorities in both countries.
I have no doubt there are definitely Black upper class areas in DC, Atlanta and so on. This is all based on what I just mentioned.
I don't think anyone is expecting Canadian cities to have equal representation of black upper class as US cities, but they do want to see a black upper-class that represents the community that exists. There is absolutely no reason why we should only have one black city council member, zero blacks at the C Level positions at the Big 5 banks or zero black managing partners at any of the big law firms in Toronto.
It is that attitude to accept mediocrity that I never quite jived with when living in Toronto. Its that type of attitude that holds us back as a community as well. I don't care what a couple white Canadians born and raised in Toronto want to say, but doing barely "better" than where you came from is not enough for many of us.
I don't think anyone is expecting Canadian cities to have equal representation of black upper class as US cities, but they do want to see a black upper-class that represents the community that exists. There is absolutely no reason why we should only have one black city council member, zero blacks at the C Level positions at the Big 5 banks or zero black managing partners at any of the big law firms in Toronto.
It is that attitude to accept mediocrity that I never quite jived with when living in Toronto. Its that type of attitude that holds us back as a community as well. I don't care what a couple white Canadians born and raised in Toronto want to say, but doing barely "better" than where you came from is not enough for many of us.
Thats it exactly!
Are there any significant even black owned investment firms in Canada?
Im curious to know what are the largest black owned business and their revenue listings in Canada.Is there a report or list anywhere?I realy do wish to know.
The mediocrity thing even exist at some level in the U.S but I think the culture of competition is stronger in the U.S.but you are absolutely right about black Canadians.
There is less poverty among blacks in Canada but its a construct of a stronger social services network than an issue of race.Poor in Canada is not the same as poor in the U.S.
A poor neghborhood is not like a poor neighborhood in Houston.Jane and Finch is a a paradise to some of U.S. "hoods".
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