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Rockville has had a train running through it for a while.
True, the county just started thinking this way in the last 10 years though. Montgomery County didn't think this way in the 1980's and 1990's. It's a new phenomenon. Prince George's County seems to have just started thinking this way in the last 3 years LOL....
I asked their planning department specifically about their proposed master plan back in 2011 which had growth in the outer parts of the county still. They changed it thank goodness. No, I'm not saying that PG county changed it because I pointed out that flaw, it was probably someone in their own government that pushed the changes. I knew that question was coming. Now, they're pushing development to their metro station's like everyone else.
Smart growth an TOD is just getting started in the D.C. region. Without Metro, we wouldn't be able to do what we're doing. That is all I have been saying for the last 3 pages.
55% is percentage of jobs in the MSA - both are correct stats just different metrics
So out of the 2 Million jobs in the DC MSA 1.1 million are within a 10 mile radius of the core
the ~28% is the number of absolute jobs in the DC 10 mile radius core as a percentage of the same job volume in NYC
According to Ray's data these were the absolute counts at 10 miles
New York - 3,482,472
Los Angeles - 1,554,495
Chicago - 1,167,738
Washington DC - 1,011,162
Boston - 989,319
Philadelphia - 909,026
Houston - 892,579
San Francisco - 805,829
Seattle - 619,589
Miami - 522,722
This metric really shows how spread out jobs are in the Philly area. I think what also contributes to it is large employment centers right near the MSA boundaries(Trenton, Vineland, Reading, etc).
Wow, so D.C. has a higher percentage of jobs concentrated within 10 mile's of downtown D.C. compared to the rest of the MSA than Manhattan in New York does?
Is D.C. the #1 major city in the country for concentrated jobs? With all the housing being added now in the core of the region, crazy to think about what D.C. is becoming.
At a 10 mile radius? Las Vegas is higher, but DC is up there.
Of course, the absolute numbers are what matter here, and with 1.5 million jobs, Los Angeles has more jobs within 10 miles than every city after New York. Amazingly, the entire Westside is beyond that 10 mile cutoff. That means major employment centers like Century City, Westwood, and Santa Monica are not included in the total.
Are they vibrant? Will they be more vibrant with a train running through them?
And lastly MD have you really ever used the commuter rail in some of these other places?
You are the one that makes comments like Commuter rail can only be used for work Totally wrong - in fact in the last ten years when I have used commuter rail it was actually never for work; these trains can be packed on weekends actually.
You do realize that people have concentrated along these lines for decades? This isnt a new thing - maybe a better technology but come on - you are taking a little too far.
If being close to the Metro were so important for all the DC metro residents wouldnt it be way packing in around them today in the burbs?
I find much of what you post as truths to be very academic in nature - sounds great on paper; maybe doesn't quite work out the same in real life
So, adding 22,000 multifamily high-rise residential housing units is not going to make Reston vibrant?
And as for Rockville, the Metro Red Line White Flint-Twinbrook-Rockville corridor will be just like the Rosslyn-Ballston Corridor in the next 20 years.
Urban planning is how Arlington VA became a national TOD model for the whole United States of America in 2014. Wait, let me guess, you think we are going to just up and abandon TOD development from now till 2030?
At a 10 mile radius? Las Vegas is higher, but DC is up there.
Of course, the absolute numbers are what matter here, and with 1.5 million jobs, Los Angeles has more jobs within 10 miles than every city after New York. Amazingly, the entire Westside is beyond that 10 mile cutoff. That means major employment centers like Century City, Westwood, and Santa Monica are not included in the total.
Percentages can be deceptive.
am pretty sure Century City and Westwood would be in this area
Hollywood, Burbank and Pasadena would be within 10 miles too
At a 10 mile radius? Las Vegas is higher, but DC is up there.
Of course, the absolute numbers are what matter here, and with 1.5 million jobs, Los Angeles has more jobs within 10 miles than every city after New York. Amazingly, the entire Westside is beyond that 10 mile cutoff. That means major employment centers like Century City, Westwood, and Santa Monica are not included in the total.
Percentages can be deceptive.
So would you consider L.A. to be a more centralized metro than Chicago?
am pretty sure Century City and Westwood would be in this area
Hollywood, Burbank and Pasadena would be within 10 miles too
Century City is 10.7 miles from DTLA using a walking route. Westwood is beyond that which means neither makes the cut. Burbank is 10.9 miles from DTLA. Pasadena and Hollywood do make the cut.
This metric really shows how spread out jobs are in the Philly area. I think what also contributes to it is large employment centers right near the MSA boundaries(Trenton, Vineland, Reading, etc).
Yes is a problem with the historic development patterns around here
This is an area where DC is doing a better job MD - and made that point BTW (saw your dm).
My point was that excluding regional rail from your comparison was short-sighted IMHO and not the best way to look at it.
Also MD this is about cores, not places like Reston etc to begin with
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