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It's downtown is also very sprawling and there's not much of anything to see there. The bulk of the tourist attractions are around the Monuments/National Mall. Most visitors to DC aren't going to venture that deep into the CBD.
Here is the reason why. For a city of 61 square miles, DT DC is very large compared to Philly, Boston, SF etc. The Loop might be similar in size. The buildings in DT DC are 13 stories tall from one end to the next which create blocks and blocks of midrise canyons. DC can't go up, so it has to go outward. There isn't a really critical mass of people in DC that you see in say SF because of this effect. But they are there. You cannot hide 500,000 who are in the core. They are just spread out from one end of DT to the next. The trains are packed with people so that should tell you a lot. This whole argument is stupid because there are no key metrics that define fast paced. Street activity doesn't determine a city's pace completely. I can show you a picture of 900,000 people on Constitution Ave in DC. What does it mean? Nothing.
It's funny how you guys are going bat**** crazy now that this notion of DC being a fast-paced city in the vein of Manhattan has been exposed.
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This is city data. We aren't getting paid for this. I like killing time blowing spit balls into your dreds. This is fun for me. I don't get upset. I could care less if Chicago was faster paced than DC. At the end of the day, I will be somewhere at HH with some honeys chuckling about this.
Here is the reason why. For a city of 61 square miles, DT DC is very large compared to Philly, Boston, SF etc. The Loop might be similar in size. The buildings in DT DC are 13 stories tall from one end to the next which create blocks and blocks of midrise canyons. DC can't go up, so it has to go outward. There isn't a really critical mass of people in DC that you see in say SF because of this effect. But they are there. You cannot hide 500,000 who are in the core.
Yes, height limits certainly have something to do with it. No, there are not 500,000 people in the core. There are 500,000 commuters coming into DC each day, but not all of them are heading downtown. You may be commuting from Silver Spring to the Washington Hospital Center, for example. There are 380,000 people working in DC's CBD, which is about 150,000 less than Chicago.
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This whole argument is stupid because there are no key metrics that define fast paced.
Sure there are. The amount of people walking around is certainly one of them. You don't think the fact that certain corners in NYC that see around 100,000 pedestrians a day has anything to do with why people consider it fast-paced? This is sounding like sour grapes now.
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Street activity doesn't determine a city's pace completely. I can show you a picture of 900,000 people on Constitution Ave in DC. What does it mean? Nothing.
So you don't think there's any distinction to be made between rush hour crowds with people trying to get somewhere and a rally?
No the real question is why can't refute any of my facts, nor account for the 500,000 people coming into the core each day. DC's trains are much more crowded than the EL. All of my links work amazing well. My numbers don't lie and his numbers are a bit shaky.
According to Demographia's 2014 CBD report, Chicago has 287k commuting into Downtown (for a transit share of 57%) while DC only 178k (for a transit share of 48%). So I really doubt what you are saying is true.
Downtown San Francisco also has a lot of pedestrian volume. Between the hours of 4pm-6pm, 20,084 pedestrians were counted at the intersection of 4th Street and Market Street. That is higher than the total number of pedestrians counted along 7th and H Street over a 10 hour period.
The data is pretty consistent with most of the polls here on C-D. Is it much of a surprise that the cities with the largest pedestrian crowds in their cores are also rated the highest in polls?
According to Demographia's 2014 CBD report, Chicago has 287k commuting into Downtown (for a transit share of 57%) while DC only 178k (for a transit share of 48%). So I really doubt what you are saying is true.
Number are way off buddy. Step into the 2000's.
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