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You are cherry picking again! I have more facts on transportation usage, traffic studies, etc....
The link says DC's population grows by almost 80% during the day. Boston grows at 40%. You can't hide 500,000 people B. They are on the streets, riding trains and eating at restaurants. This turned this into a ROUT. LOL
"Cherrypicking" is the defense of someone who's already lost.
Does Downtown DC have more employment than Downtown Chicago? No. Does a higher percentage of its workforce commute into the CBD by transit? No. Does Downtown DC have more pedestrian traffic than Downtown Chicago? No.
No basis to conclude it's faster-paced whatsoever.
Keep expanding out from DC until you get 223 square miles. Then tell us what the transit share looks like.
DC can't even reach Chicago's population if the whole entire area inside of the Beltway were a city. There are 1,725,866 people inside of the Beltway, which is a density of 4,080 ppsm. Chicago has 2.7 million people with a density just under 12,000 ppsm.
"Cherrypicking" is the defense of someone who's already lost.
Does Downtown DC have more employment than Downtown Chicago? No. Does a higher percentage of its workforce commute into the CBD by transit? No. Does Downtown DC have more pedestrian traffic than Downtown Chicago? No.
No basis to conclude it's faster-paced whatsoever.
B,
Does the Loop's population expand by 80% during the day? No. Does the EL have more people riding into the Loop than metro does to DT DC? No. Pedestrian traffic is subjective unless you can count each and every street. Your cherry picking is asinine. Does Chicago's Amtrak station have more business related passegers than DC's Union station? No. Does Chicago have worst traffic than DC? No.
You have no answers for the above. And you have not accounted for the 500,000 in DC's core EACH DAY! REFUTE MY FACTS??????
Just to recap. These are pedestrian counts over a 10-hour counting period during a weekday.
Oxford Street - 129,840
47th Street - 118,000
Flushing - 97,290
Herald Sq - 94,730
Michigan Ave - 54,104
Sumner Street - 51,101
Broadway - 48,940
17th and Walnut - 24,026 (average)
15th and Chestnut - 23,910
7th Street - 11,292 (19,700 combined with H Street)
Clearly, DC and NYC are the fastest-paced "outta my way cities!!!" in the United States.
I don't understand why downtown DC pedestrian counts are so weak. Doesn't DC have the third largest CBD workforce in the country (only about 20-25% below Chicago)? Where are they all hiding?
Pedestrian traffic is subjective unless you can count each and ecry street. You cherry picking is asinine.
How is it subjective? The Department of Transportation literally has paid employees as well as cameras that track each pedestrian that crosses through an intersection. It doesn't get any more objective than that.
Downtown Chicago kills Downtown DC across the board. Wabash, State, Madison, etc. all register higher pedestrian counts than 7th Street. Some of the streets on the lower end of the range exceed 7th and H Streets in pedestrian volume. This is not really debatable. I already laid the data out and provided a report from DC DOT so I'm not sure what you're griping about.
For someone walking in Downtown Chicago, they are going to notice that it's significantly busier than Downtown DC.
I don't understand why downtown DC pedestrian counts are so weak. Doesn't DC have the third largest CBD workforce in the country (only about 20-25% below Chicago)?
No the real question is why can't refute any of my facts, nor account for the 500,000 people coming into the core each day. DC's trains are much more crowded than the EL. All of my links work amazing well. My numbers don't lie and his numbers are a bit shaky.
I don't understand why downtown DC pedestrian counts are so weak. Doesn't DC have the third largest CBD workforce in the country (only about 20-25% below Chicago)?
It's downtown is also very sprawling and there's not much of anything to see there. The bulk of the tourist attractions are around the Monuments/National Mall. Most visitors to DC aren't going to venture that deep into the CBD.
How is it subjective? The Department of Transportation literally has paid employees as well as cameras that track each pedestrian that crosses through an intersection. It doesn't get any more objective than that.
Downtown Chicago kills Downtown DC across the board. Wabash, State, Madison, etc. all register higher pedestrian counts than 7th Street. Some of the streets on the lower end of the range exceed 7th and H Streets in pedestrian volume. This is not really debatable. I already laid the data out and provided a report from DC DOT so I'm not sure what you're griping about.
For someone walking in Downtown Chicago, they are going to notice that it's significantly busier than Downtown DC.
So let's pull some DT Chicago EL station numbers and compare them with metro stations in DT DC.
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