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Yes but the people, neighborhoods, setting and actual contribution to the social and cultural fabric of Ameeica are so unremarkable and undistinctive that your essentially relying on 1800s buildings to beat SF, and that is not enough.
We are talking about which is more iconic to the world. The world does not know about SF's neighborhoods or its contributions to America. It is an important city, & a very cultural city, but that does not necessarily equate to iconic
The White House
The Capitol
The Washington Monument
maybe (domestically): The Lincoln Memorial
maybe (domestically): the Smithsonian's original building (too bad nobody reads paper print anymore because the Smithsonian magazine had its original museum plastered all over it)
I absolutely cannot see:
The Vietnam Memorial (it's a friggin wall with names on it...it's symbolic and important, but ask most people in America to recognize it, let alone international people??)
or anything else...the average American barely knows his or her left hand from the right; let alone some random memorial or structure in DC.
For San Francisco:
Domestically and Internationally:
Golden Gate Bridge
Alcatraz
Cable Cars
Cityscape in general
For being the US Capital, DC is not as recognizable as say Paris or London. And DC doesn't have a real vernacular like Paris (or San Francisco) does.
San Francisco's stuff appeals from a more traditional people perspective - human might, cultural movements, gem of American city, etc. DC is monumental and a capital. It's impressive and as is obvious, the capital, however, it doesn't have anything else to give it umph. As everyone seems to agree, it certainly doesn't have the culture/cultural history that SF does.
This post is kind of ridiculous. No bias there, at all.
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Haha DC is far worse because it has no real skyline to speak of so if we remove it's 2 tallest structures, DC from a distance might as well be Sandy Springs, except Sandy Springs has iconic highrises whereas DC does not.
The buildings in Washington DC are more iconic and well known around the world than buildings in SF, you can homer and hate all you want but this is not up for debate, sorry.
DC from above you only need to see a street grid and it can be recognized easily due to the traffic circles, diagonal streets, National Mall, the Ellipse, White House lawn all can be determined.
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We are talking about which is more iconic to the world.
Yes, that would be SF.
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The world does not know about SF's neighborhoods or its contributions to America.
Hahahaha the entire WORLD knows that SF is full of liberal, gay, hippie, techies. The entire WORLD knows about SFs iconic cityscape, natural setting, climate and oh, the bridge.
Meanwhile DC isnt really known for anything actually, except for the seat of government.
Apart from that, zzzzzzzz snooze fest.
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It is an important city, & a very cultural city, but that does not necessarily equate to iconic
The buildings in Washington DC are more iconic and well known around the world than buildings in SF, you can homer and hate all you want but this is not up for debate, sorry.
Your right. It's not up for debate.
San Francisco is adored and heralded the world over for lots of reasons.
Meanwhile, Washington DC is the seat of the US govt. (Crickets chirping)
Hahahaha the entire WORLD knows that SF is full of liberal, gay, hippie, techies. The entire WORLD knows about SFs iconic cityscape, natural setting, climate and oh, the bridge.
Meanwhile DC isnt really known for anything actually, except for the seat of government.
Apart from that, zzzzzzzz snooze fest.
It does in this case.
In America yes we know all those things about SF but you're very ignorant to think a person in say Ghana or South Africa or Australia will know all those things. SF is domestically iconic for those attributes. The entire world doesn't know what liberal is because it doesn't exist in certain parts of the world or it isn't a phrased used. Educate yourself.
In America yes we know all those things about SF but you're very ignorant to think a person in say Ghana or South Africa or Australia will know all those things.
Haha Ive lived in Cape Town(Boom)and just about everyone I met there knew something about San Francisco. In fact, the West Coast in general is wayyy more famous than the East Coast. New York is the exception to that
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SF is domestically iconic for those attributes. The entire world doesn't know what liberal is because it doesn't exist in certain parts of the world or it isn't a phrased used.
Actually SF is perceived as the non warmongering, unAmerican, American city, the counterweight to socially oppressed groups like GAYS.
SF is most definitely seen that way around the world.
It's actually amazing how well known SF is actually.
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Educate yourself.
Yes every day is an opportunity to learn indeed, but my 2 post grad degrees, experiences living and working in Europe, South America, Asia and Africa have been quite a good education thus far.
Haha Ive lived in Cape Town(Boom)and just about everyone I met there knew something about San Francisco. In fact, the West Coast in general is wayyy more famous than the East Coast. New York is the exception to that
Actually SF is perceived as the non warmongering, unAmerican, American city, the counterweight to socially oppressed groups like GAYS.
SF is most definitely seen that way around the world.
It's actually amazing how well known SF is actually.
Yes every day is an opportunity to learn indeed, but my 2 post grad degrees, experiences living and working in Europe, South America, Asia and Africa have been quite a good education thus far.
Thanks tho.
Oh of course you lived in Cape Town like how you apparently live in Paris right? For a person who lives in Paris I'm surprise you use skyscraoers as an argument? Hmmmmm Cape Town is full of tourist. I'm pretty sure most of the natives don't know about SF's culture and attributes. When I went to Johannesburg the only cities people knew about were LA and NYC. They have heard of SF but didn't know anything. Even DC, they only knew that's where the president lived and they knew the White House and "that building that looks like a pencil." I've traveled myself, I have a masters degree and attended college. Doesn't mean you know everything under the sun. Have you been to Ghana? No. I've been there numerous times, in Ghana the DC area is very popular. They come to DC all the time... Same with Nigeria and Morroco.
All I'm saying is YOU don't know what everyone in this world knows or finds iconic. Not almost about everyone in Cape Town knows of SF. Have you met 80% of Cape Towns residents? Please educate yourself.
Oh of course you lived in Cape Town like how you apparently live in Paris right?
lol put your claws away girl, no need to be catty just because someone disagrees with you and won't back down. It seems like you could use a an education as well. lmao.
I usually ignore this sort of personal jab but this seems especially desparate.
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Hmmmmm Cape Town is full of tourist.
Yes, world travelers know SF.
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All I'm saying is YOU don't know what everyone in this world knows or finds iconic.
To me, this sounds like a pretty strong overblowing of just how acquainted most people abroad are with the US and its cities. People don't generally know that much, don't need to know that much, and don't really care to know that much about another country even if it is the US of A. It's going to be mostly surface they get to, and on the surface, the White House and the like simply show up a lot more often when it comes to places that a person might be able to identify with a somewhat specific area/city. Throw in some LA beach vistas and the Hollywood sign, the Manhattan skyline, the Statue of Liberty, the gambling in Las Vegas, and you're not going to go very much further than that for the vast majority of people outside of the US. Maybe Hawaii in sort of an abstract when you go to East Asia.
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