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That's probably from that "heyjackass" site? Those count all deaths in the city that are ruled some sort of homicide by the coroner, but includes things like justified homicides, police shootings, self defense and vehicular homicide that are normally not included in organized/standard homicide statistics as they're used to compare people killing other people in cities across the USA.
418 would be that number, the one used to compare as it's defined in this thread.
Richmond has 31 murders. Still off its pace of 41 last year, and it's average of 39 for the decade-to-date....
Norfolk is at 24 murders. It as well is trending towards being less than last year's total of 31, which has also been it's decade-to-date average (31)...
By comparison, Richmond had an average annual murder count of 69 in the 2000s (00-09), average annual rate of ~34.33/100, peaking at 93 in 2003 and 2004, bottoming out at 31 in 2008. What my city has done to lower crime within the last decade is nothing short of amazing...
Norfolk in the '00s averaged 39 murders/yr, for a decade average rate of 16.32/100, peaking with 59 in 2005, bottoming at 28 in both 2006 and 2008....
1980s
DC-averaged 234 murders/yr for decade rate of ~37.68/100. Peaked in 1989 with 434 murders/71.85 rate...
Rich--averaged 78 murders/yr for decade rate of ~37.08. Peaked in 1989 with 102 murders/50.00 rate...
Bmore--averaged 226/yr for decade rate of ~29.61/100. Peaked in 1989 with 262 murders/35.36 rate...
1990s
DC--averaged 381 murders/yr for average decade rate of ~67.33. Peaked in 1991 with 482 murders/80.6 rate...
Rich--averaged 116 murders for average decade rate of ~58.04. Peaked in 1994 with 161 murders/80.5 rate...
Bmore--averaged 320 murders/yr for average decade rate of ~45.83. Peaked in 1993 with 353 murders/49.65 rate...
As it stands right now (11/16/15), only 1993 and 1996 had higher murder rates than 2015 Baltimore. Two more homicides will officially make '15 the second most deadly year; ten more homicides will make this the most violent year in Baltimore history. Baltimore was comparatively "safe" in the War Years, although, clearly, murder is no joking matter...
For those who've lamented DC's rise this year, consider that it is nowhere close to its record. For that matter, DC is still going to wind up with a lesser rate than it had I'm ANY year of the 80s and 90s. And while Baltimore is definitely cringe-inducing, 2015 Baltimore would literally have to have 500 murders to set a rate of ~80/100k, which are the marks Richmond and DC posted in '91 and '94. Baltimore is bad, but definitely a little overblown with 'hiw' bad it is....
Last edited by murksiderock; 11-16-2015 at 11:59 PM..
That's probably from that "heyjackass" site? Those count all deaths in the city that are ruled some sort of homicide by the coroner, but includes things like justified homicides, police shootings, self defense and vehicular homicide that are normally not included in organized/standard homicide statistics as they're used to compare people killing other people in cities across the USA.
418 would be that number, the one used to compare as it's defined in this thread.
The problem with theads like this one is how desensitized many Americans have become to murder. Just a statistic.. Baltimore 300.. Chicago 417.. Detroit 300 (or whatever?).. Its disgusting. Many of these deaths are young black males.
The problem with theads like this one is how desensitized many Americans have become to murder. Just a statistic.. Baltimore 300.. Chicago 417.. Detroit 300 (or whatever?).. Its disgusting. Many of these deaths are young black males.
When did we stop really caring?
In Chicago at least it's very much split on racial lines, and the homicides tend to be in very specific spots within the city and metro area. Given a lot of the people on here and a lot of the people on TV and heading media outlets tend to function more in a "white" world, and whites are almost 60% of the Chicago area - there seems to be MUCH less overall action to fixing the problem uniting as one solid group.
This is the case virtually everywhere, nothing specific.
Illinois though actually has an unusually low homicide rate among whites. It's 1.3/100,000 or about half of the nationwide rate for whites of 2.6/100,000. Illinois is on par with Iowa, North Dakota and New Hampshire for coming in with the lowest rates.
Even in the city of Chicago with it's 1,000,000 whites (and Asians, they grouped that 150,000 in for whatever reason in the stats as "other" vs hispanics and blacks), the numbers are the same.
In the city of Chicago that group of 1,000,000 saw 15 murders last year, for a white homicide rate in the city of 1.5/100,000.
Not defending it at all, but it gives a clue as to why everyone else isn't in an uproar. It's VASTLY impacts just one specific group living in very isolated areas. Isolated meaning that group lives there, and normally ONLY that group.
Last edited by Chicago60614; 11-17-2015 at 09:05 AM..
I think part of the problem in 2015 is that the "Black Lives Matter" movement has been hijacked somewhat by criminals. Better leadership is needed in the black community in my opinion. In Philly in particular people are trying to reduce the chances of kids becoming career criminals after a single minor offense. Improving PSD is goal number one. Education is key. Combine that with increase vocational training and better health services and you have the beginning recipe of driving down crime..
The problem with theads like this one is how desensitized many Americans have become to murder. Just a statistic.. Baltimore 300.. Chicago 417.. Detroit 300 (or whatever?).. Its disgusting. Many of these deaths are young black males.
When did we stop really caring?
Detroit is at 248 currently though the last date for that was November 9th.
Out of sight, out of mind. Someone who has actually witnessed or been affected by murder will have a totally different feeling than someone who hasn't. Much like many issues, if people aren't directly affected by it then they're less likely to act in anyway to change it or say something about it.
I'm floored by the number of murders in some of the cities mentioned. The most recent stats I found show there were 24 murders in San Diego through September.
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