Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I don't know about 2015, but Windsor only had 3 homicides in 2014. Population 210k. Murder rate 1.4/100k.
By comparison, Birmingham Alabama had 92 homicides for 2015. Population 212k. Murder rate 43.4/100k.
Jefferson County had 143 homicides.
Bham had its first homicide of 2016 at 2:30am on New Year's.
What percentage of Windsor's population lives in poverty to explain the disparity? Or is it cultural differences between Americans and Canadians? Or is it because of gun control? Which gets to another question, how were these 3 or 4 people killed.
What percentage of Windsor's population lives in poverty to explain the disparity? Or is it cultural differences between Americans and Canadians? Or is it because of gun control? Which gets to another question, how were these 3 or 4 people killed.
Firstly, Canada has no definition of poverty so already if you're trying to compare it to any US city, it's going to be difficult. Canadian statistics has "low-income cut-off" which is defined as families who have to devote a majority of their income towards food, shelter, or clothing more than the typical family. Windsor then has nearly 20% of its population that falls under this cut-off. Either way, Windsor is ranked as one of the safest cities in Canada so clearly poverty is not the source of crime.
Secondly, Canada does have strict gun control compared to the US but this hasn't prevented homicides from occurring or having firearm-involved crimes. There's not necessarily a direct correlation with strict gun control and less homicides either. For example, 40%+ of the homicides in Toronto are committed with firearms, many of them gang-related and many times guns smuggled from the US. However, Toronto averages less than 100 homicides a year which is much lower than any American city of the same size.
Windsor as well went 2 years without a homicide despite actually have a very big gun problem. Detroit - Windsor is a major smuggling hub because of the short distance across the river and Windsor police spend a lot of resources to crack down on illegal guns.
There's a disparity in the homicide rates between Detroit and Windsor simply because both cities are in two different countries! Nothing in Canada is the same as the US, economically, culturally, or legally. Similar in ways, but not the same.
Firstly, Canada has no definition of poverty so already if you're trying to compare it to any US city, it's going to be difficult. Canadian statistics has "low-income cut-off" which is defined as families who have to devote a majority of their income towards food, shelter, or clothing more than the typical family. Windsor then has nearly 20% of its population that falls under this cut-off. Either way, Windsor is ranked as one of the safest cities in Canada so clearly poverty is not the source of crime.
Secondly, Canada does have strict gun control compared to the US but this hasn't prevented homicides from occurring or having firearm-involved crimes. There's not necessarily a direct correlation with strict gun control and less homicides either. For example, 40%+ of the homicides in Toronto are committed with firearms, many of them gang-related and many times guns smuggled from the US. However, Toronto averages less than 100 homicides a year which is much lower than any American city of the same size.
Windsor as well went 2 years without a homicide despite actually have a very big gun problem. Detroit - Windsor is a major smuggling hub because of the short distance across the river and Windsor police spend a lot of resources to crack down on illegal guns.
There's a disparity in the homicide rates between Detroit and Windsor simply because both cities are in two different countries! Nothing in Canada is the same as the US, economically, culturally, or legally. Similar in ways, but not the same.
Well, thanks to Conservatives who just for the sake of saying NO to Obama do not even want to impose background check... tell Trump and his GOP clown that Canada is pretty much a gun free zone and so fare this year, no mass shooting
I haven't seen anyone brag about how dangerous their cities are either. If anything I sense the opposite. Most people are ashamed of their cities being dangerous and ghetto, and put down other cities, such as the recent battle between Chicago and the Bay Area.
Meanwhile, luckily Atlanta has been getting left alone. I haven't seen the last two weeks of the year, but hopefully it's still in the double-digits. I really hope for a huge drop in 2016. I really would like too see Atlanta with less than 80 or 70, but of course the lesser the better. Wishing everyone a safe and Happy New Year!
Nice post there, SEAandATl & Happy New Year to you!
I am awaiting news of how the final tally ended for Atlanta in 2015.
What changes in policing or community involvement or luck or whatever can be brought to bear to lower the number of murders I'm not able to say. But the city only total in Atlanta has been running less than 100 for quite a few years & usually ends up in the 80's or 90's.
The really drastic murder toll reduction in the city proper ocurred gradually & is rarely recognized by locals much less on a national level.
For much of the late 1970's & on into the 1980's Atlanta was lawless & crime/murder was out of control & the city typically notched 250-280 murders per year.
The present "normal" level is still regrettable but is a drastic improvement from the past.
Last edited by atler8; 01-05-2016 at 08:15 AM..
Reason: spelling error
Secondly, Canada does have strict gun control compared to the US but this hasn't prevented homicides from occurring or having firearm-involved crimes. There's not necessarily a direct correlation with strict gun control and less homicides either. For example, 40%+ of the homicides in Toronto are committed with firearms, many of them gang-related and many times guns smuggled from the US. However, Toronto averages less than 100 homicides a year which is much lower than any American city of the same size.
Toronto covers 243 square miles of land. Boston, for example, covers about 48 square miles. The crime dense areas are included in that land mass. But comparing these cities is apples to oranges. If you gave 243 square miles and defined that as Boston, I'd wager the violent crime rate/murder rate of these places would be about the same, possibly with Boston lower.
Comparing cities is kind of a difficult task due to arbitrary borders, definitions, etc.
Toronto covers 243 square miles of land. Boston, for example, covers about 48 square miles. The crime dense areas are included in that land mass. But comparing these cities is apples to oranges. If you gave 243 square miles and defined that as Boston, I'd wager the violent crime rate/murder rate of these places would be about the same, possibly with Boston lower.
Comparing cities is kind of a difficult task due to arbitrary borders, definitions, etc.
The Boston MSA is the safest of any major US metro area. Still I don't think the Toronto MSA would be worse than the Boston MSA. Winnipeg on the other hand has a higher metro murder rate than Boston. However, Winnipeg is nothing compared to New Orleans or Baltimore. Winnipeg's metro murder rate is on par with San Diego's if not a little lower.
Atlanta ended 2015 with 93 murders which is the exact same number that occurred in 2014. Per capita its around 20.39 per 100,000.
Where is this info at? I'm only seeing up to week 50 on the apd website that says the murders were at 93. Were there no murders in the final 2 weeks?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
City & Metro Murders...
