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I understand man... geez haha. It was just a simple quick mock-up. Why don't you make a mock up on Google Maps of what you think the Downtown area would be?
By the definition we're now using of Center City Philly, you could include like most of Brooklyn for NYC.
What definition is that? I'm including Spring Garden to South St, River to River. And the "Downtown" definition could include University City as well to 40th Street and Powelton Ave to the North.
I would consider Brooklyn to be a secondary Downtown Node, since it is separated by the extremely wide East River and not really a contingent of Manhattan. Does it matter however? What I already included as "Downtown NYC" in Manhattan is nearly 16 square miles. It is by far and large the largest "Downtown" area in the United States.
Can't include all of the city man, lol. What would Downtown DC look like to you? It's just a rough mock-up which I made. It doesn't mean this is the 100% definitive definition of Downtown DC.
Is this a joke? Probably because they're separated by the massive East River. I would consider these separate "Downtown Nodes," but they are definitely not a part of the cohesive Downtown of NYC.
I don't use streets to define downtown's. I use development intensity and style. In D.C., Downtown D.C. would include the following neighborhoods because they are all a mix of high rise's with a few row houses mixed in and will ultimately be completely developed as such at full build out.
Downtown D.C. Neighborhoods:
Dupont Circle
Logan Circle
Foggy Bottom
Mt. Vernon Triangle
Golden Triangle
West End
Midtown
Penn Quarter
Northwest One
NOMA
Union Market
SW Eco District
The Wharf
Waterfront Station
Capital Riverfront
I understand man... geez haha. It was just a simple quick mock-up. Why don't you make a mock up on Google Maps of what you think the Downtown area would be?
Is this a joke? Probably because they're separated by the massive East River. I would consider these separate "Downtown Nodes," but they are definitely not a part of the cohesive Downtown of NYC.
I don't see why a river would mean it isn't "downtown". That seems to be totally arbitrary.
No it isn't ''downtown" in the NYC sense, but that has nothing to with what we're discussing, which seems to be "city cores". If the Italian Market and U City are "downtown" Philly then most of NYC is "downtown".
What definition is that? I'm including Spring Garden to South St, River to River. And the "Downtown" definition could include University City as well to 40th Street and Powelton Ave to the North.
I would consider Brooklyn to be a secondary Downtown Node, since it is separated by the extremely wide East River and not really a contingent of Manhattan. Does it matter however? What I already included as "Downtown NYC" in Manhattan is nearly 16 square miles. It is by far and large the largest "Downtown" area in the United States.
This is the development zone for downtown D.C. Massive high-rise buildings are being built in this footprint.
I don't see why a river would mean it isn't "downtown". That seems to be totally arbitrary.
No it isn't ''downtown" in the NYC sense, but that has nothing to with what we're discussing, which seems to be "city cores". If the Italian Market and U City are "downtown" Philly then most of NYC is "downtown".
And yes, a river usually wouldn't be a divider if it was a small river, like the Schuylkill in Philadelphia or the Chicago River. However, the East River is massive, and definitely acts as more of a divider instead of a small "event" - as Cesar Peli describes it when comparing the Schuylkill to the Le Seine in Paris.
The East River is massively wide. It definitely acts as a dividing point instead of a simple minute or two walk across a 300 foot long bridge. Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn are definitely two separate Downtowns.
I would consider Brooklyn to be a secondary Downtown Node, since it is separated by the extremely wide East River and not really a contingent of Manhattan.
So it's a secondary node similar University City and not considered "downtown."
Center City District and the Central Philadelphia Development Corporation exclude University City from their definition of "downtown." They call it a secondary employment node.
I don't see why a river would mean it isn't "downtown". That seems to be totally arbitrary.
It is arbitrary. I see no reason why Downtown BK can't be considered "Greater Manhattan" or at least part of the city's core/CBD. What panel of experts convened and decided how wide or narrow a river has to be in order for a business district to be considered part of the "downtown."
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