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as a kid would spend hours a day in the ocean honestly, when its warmer and even hotter outside its not that uncommon
and I mostly rode waves or body surfed, still do actually when I can
I think the activities are viewed differently and the water temps are the biggest difference of the water itself (plus larger waves on the WC no doubt)
that said both have similar activities that can be done
Kids handle colder water better than adults imo, I know I could. And I doubt you were fully submersed from the neck area down. Most kids play close to shore.
You're basically making up when people feel uncomfortable based on a chart about hypothermia that talks about being in the water for hours which no one actually does. LOTS of people spend more than 5 minutes in 70 degree water, you're body adjusts within 5 minutes or less. I've done it as all the hundreds of other people swimming around me have.
Let's put it this, only people who like cold, will stay in 70 degree water.
And no, the body doesn't adjust "within 5 minutes." You can claim it does if it makes you feel better, it doesn't.
You stay cold in 70 degree water. And within 1 hour or so most people will have dangerously reduced body temperature and onset of hypothermia. Within 2 hours you will begin to lose control of external limbs as your body begins to conserve heat. Within 4 hours, the average man will be dead.
So under 1 hour, you're body is struggling to be warm. That will manifest in discomfort.
Let's put it this, only people who like cold, will stay in 70 degree water.
And no, the body doesn't adjust "within 5 minutes." You can claim it does if it makes you feel better, it doesn't.
You stay cold in 70 degree water. And within 1 hour or so most people will have dangerously reduced body temperature and onset of hypothermia. Within 2 hours you will begin to lose control of external limbs as your body begins to conserve heat. Within 4 hours, the average man will be dead.
So under 1 hour, you're body is struggling to be warm. That will manifest in discomfort.
No a lot of people don't actually, I guess you never did actually live in Southern CA, spend much time at the beach, or talk to anyone if you think that.
Also you keep saying you will be dead in 4 hours but your link says exhaustion or unconsciousness in 2-7 hours. Your chart doesn't even make sense.
No a lot of people don't actually, I guess you never did actually live in Southern CA, spend much time at the beach, or talk to anyone if you think that.
Or your lying, which is actually the truth
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Also you keep saying you will be dead in 4 hours but your link says exhaustion or unconsciousness in 2-7 hours. Your chart doesn't even make sense.
I know you're having a slow day today. So I'll help you:
Go look under the table called "Expected Time of Survival".
For 60-70 degree range it's given at 2-4 hours. So I'm taking the upper end of the range (4 hours) since we're talking about 70 degrees which is at the upper end of the range for 60-70.
Now, look at the range 70-80 degrees, your survival time is given at 3 hours - indefinite. Here 70 degrees is at the bottom of the range, so we take 3 hours.
In other words, 70 degree expected survival time is roughly 3-4 hours.
Nowhere, and no one, considers 70 degrees comfortable. I can guarantee you that. Resorts keep their pools at 84 degrees for a reason, that's comfortable. 70 is a far departure from it.
With all due respects, I don't believe you. Either you're making things up or just weren't aware of the water temperature.
No one enjoys leisurely things like snorkeling at such water temperatures. Remember, you're literally going to be dead within 4 hours.
I've seen people dive in 60 degree water, do something very quick, and get out. Their time in the water is very short.
I lived on a coast my entire life. I'm not the one from Canada, and now in Portland, flying to coasts. I live on them, I monitor water temperatures, and I know what's comfortable, what's not. What's dangerous, and what's not.
In 65 degree water, your body will become numb within 5 minutes.
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You're insane. And wrong. I see people do this all year round even in 60 degree water. I have firefighter buddies who free dive for lobsters here without wetsuits. You can go down to Pismo Beach here any weekend of the year and people will be in the water body surfing even in 60 degree water.
You're insane. And wrong. I see people do this all year round even in 60 degree water. I have firefighter buddies who free dive for lobsters here without wetsuits. You can go down to Pismo Beach here any weekend of the year and people will be in the water body surfing even in 60 degree water.
Haha I lived on a beach in San Diego, there were years I saw no one swimming even in the summer. Dive in and run back out to their towel? Sure, but swimming no
Haha I lived on a beach in San Diego, there were years I saw no one swimming even in the summer. Dive in and run back out to their towel? Sure, but swimming no
I know that isnt true, and pretty sure you're making it up...
You cant go to a beach in SoCal in summer and not be inundated with people.
You're insane. And wrong. I see people do this all year round even in 60 degree water. I have firefighter buddies who free dive for lobsters here without wetsuits. You can go down to Pismo Beach here any weekend of the year and people will be in the water body surfing even in 60 degree water.
They'll be dead in hours! All of them, the horror!
I know you're having a slow day today. So I'll help you:
Go look under the table called "Expected Time of Survival".
For 60-70 degree range it's given at 2-4 hours. So I'm taking the upper end of the range (4 hours) since we're talking about 70 degrees which is at the upper end of the range for 60-70.
Now, look at the range 70-80 degrees, your survival time is given at 3 hours - indefinite. Here 70 degrees is at the bottom of the range, so we take 3 hours.
In other words, 70 degree expected survival time is roughly 3-4 hours.
Nowhere, and no one, considers 70 degrees comfortable. I can guarantee you that. Resorts keep their pools at 84 degrees for a reason, that's comfortable. 70 is a far departure from it.
Your link also says "exhaustion or unconsciousness" in 2-7 hours. So do you die first then become "exhausted"?
(the foreground is the surf zone which is why few people are in it)
Hopefully you can make out the people as they might be blurry since they are all running in and out of the ocean.
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