2015 United States Census Population Estimates for PCSAs (parks, best, better)

[Julianpieohmy]

All I know is that "metro Tampa" with a population of 3.4 or whatever million is probably the most underwhelming urban area of that size in the world.

[TexasTallest]

Originally Posted by jdaelectro

Ironically, these are estimates we are talking about, so I'm not sure why you're so adamant about this. It's not like it is the actual census. This isn't a Doctoral Thesis, we can talk about various things relating to theorized population centers. For example: the Bos-Wash corridor. The census doesn't recognize such an area, but it does exist. Actually it is a better comparison, since the list he made was for CSA's. Tampa doesn't have a CSA (yet). So the wider definition compared to the other cities wider definitions is only logical. Rather than MSA compared to CSA.

Exactly. That's some estimate. While every other stat was an actual census number.. And in case you didn't notice, multiple other population centers on the list don't have a CSA either, so MSA was used for them..

[jdaelectro]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

While every other stat was an actual census number..

They are 2015 census estimates. The census is decennial. So actual numbers are only available from 2010. Take care, I'm finished with this, guess we'll agree to disagree.

[TexasTallest]

Originally Posted by jdaelectro

They are 2015 census estimates. The census is decennial. So actual numbers are only available from 2010. Take care, I'm finished with this, guess we'll agree to disagree.

Lol, it's amazing how you can squirm around established federal statistics for population centers and persistently try to claim Tampa has 1.8 million people more than it really does. Ah well, maybe when you visit metros that are actually 4.7 million people you'll see the difference..

[rnc2mbfl]

Originally Posted by jdaelectro

Actually it is a better comparison, since the list he made was for CSA's. Tampa doesn't have a CSA (yet). So the wider definition compared to the other cities wider definitions is only logical. Rather than MSA compared to CSA.

Whether it's a CSA or MSA is inconsequential since they are both based on commuting patterns. Each metro has its highest level as either a MSA or CSA and the land area and distance reached from the center of its core might be similar between a MSA and a CSA. So, it's not like Tampa is being short changed on population.
Over time, counties associated with a CSA might change to become part of the MSA and new counties/micropolitan areas might be added to either a CSA or a MSA depending on the commuting patterns. These changes only happen officially once every ten years a few years following the Census. This may happen with Tampa Bay but we won't know for several more years.

[mjlo]

Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl

Whether it's a CSA or MSA is inconsequential since they are both based on commuting patterns. Each metro has its highest level as either a MSA or CSA and the land area and distance reached from the center of its core might be similar between a MSA and a CSA. So, it's not like Tampa is being short changed on population.
Over time, counties associated with a CSA might change to become part of the MSA and new counties/micropolitan areas might be added to either a CSA or a MSA depending on the commuting patterns. These changes only happen officially once every ten years a few years following the Census. This may happen with Tampa Bay but we won't know for several more years.

Both MSA and CSA are have their flaws as metrics when determining a cities size. There are only a few instances where I think CSA is a better metric.(The Bay Area comes to mind.) This is a website of city homers and cheerleaders. Naturally people are going to gravitate toward whatever metric makes their city look the best on paper, without regard to how intellectually honest it is. At this point CSA is little more than a glamour point for a lot of posters to give an artificially larger perception of their homer city. The population of a small city in some cases 90 miles away from the core city should NOT be included as part of a metro area. As CSA is calculated, logically only the fringe of the county bordering core area actually commutes. The rest of the county has almost nothing to do with the core in most cases. If you want to have a city size contest Urbanized Area is usually the most honest metric.

[SouthernBoy205]

Originally Posted by Red John

The planet now has 507 cities (through urbanized area) with more than 1 million people, this number is up from 494 last year in 2015. With 63 of those places over 1 million being between the United States-Canada-Mexico alone. New York remains in the world's "Top 10" most populous cities, while Mexico City remains in the world's "Top 15" most populous cities, and Los Angeles remains in the world's "Top 20" most populous cities. Whereas Chicago (ranked 39th) is still in the world's "Top 50" most populous cities.

The cities in blue are the ones in the world's 100 most populous, the ones in bold hold more prominent spots in the world with regards to size and population. The ones in red are the cities from 101 to 250, and finally the places in green are from 250 to 507.

World's Most Populous Urban Areas as of 2016:
009. New York, United States: 20,685,000
012. Mexico City, Mexico: 20,230,000
019. Los Angeles, United States: 15,135,000
039. Chicago, United States: 9,185,000
056. Toronto, Canada: 6,550,000
058. Dallas-Fort Worth, United States: 6,280,000
063. Houston, United States: 6,005,000
065. San Francisco-San Jose-Oakland, United States: 5,955,000
067. Miami-Fort Lauderdale, United States: 5,820,000
073. Philadelphia, United States: 5,595,000
079. Atlanta, United States: 5,120,000
080. Washington D.C., United States: 4,950,000
088. Guadalajara, Mexico: 4,675,000
091. Boston, United States: 4,490,000
095. Phoenix, United States: 4,295,000
096. Monterrey, Mexico: 4,155,000
120. Detroit, United States: 3,660,000
124. Montreal, Canada: 3,570,000
129. Seattle, United States: 3,475,000
150. San Diego, United States: 3,110,000
165. Minneapolis-Saint Paul, United States: 2,795,000
178. Tampa, United States: 2,660,000
184. Denver, United States: 2,600,000
213. Vancouver, Canada: 2,310,000
215. Baltimore, United States: 2,275,000
218. Las Vegas, United States: 2,255,000
225. Saint Louis, United States: 2,195,000
232. San Juan, United States: 2,135,000
233. Puebla, Mexico: 2,125,000 =TIED
233. Orlando, United States: 2,125,000 =TIED
246. San Antonio, United States: 2,025,000
248. Portland, United States: 2,000,000
257. Toluca, Mexico: 1,940,000
263. Sacramento, United States: 1,920,000
275. Cleveland, United States: 1,785,000
287. Pittsburgh, United States: 1,730,000
294. Cincinnati, United States: 1,695,000
298. Austin, United States: 1,675,000
304. Indianapolis, United States: 1,645,000
314. Kansas City, United States: 1,610,000
316. Charlotte, United States: 1,600,000
317. Leon, Mexico: 1,595,000
337. Columbus, United States: 1,505,000
344. Virginia Beach-Norfolk, United States: 1,465,000
354. Milwaukee, United States: 1,415,000
355. Tijuana, Mexico: 1,410,000
366. Ciudad Juarez, Mexico: 1,370,000
409. Calgary, Canada: 1,215,000
412. Providence, United States: 1,205,000
422. Torreon, Mexico: 1,170,000 =TIED
422. Jacksonville, United States: 1,170,000 =TIED
444. Raleigh, United States: 1,130,000
450. San Luis Potosi, Mexico: 1,120,000
453. Memphis, United States: 1,110,000
455. Nashville, United States: 1,105,000
458. Salt Lake City, United States: 1,100,000
474. Edmonton, Canada: 1,060,000
482. Louisville, United States: 1,035,000
485. Richmond, United States: 1,030,000
488. Queretaro, Mexico: 1,025,000
494. Merida, Mexico: 1,015,000
501. Ottawa, Canada: 1,010,000
507. Morelia, Mexico: 1,000,000

Wow. Houston and DFW are less than 300,000 people apart.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205

Wow. Houston and DFW are less than 300,000 people apart.

They've always been around that as far as urban areas go. The gap is wider for MSA and CSA.

[SouthernBoy205]

It's crazy how Fort Worth helps DFW a lot.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205

It's crazy how Fort Worth helps DFW a lot.

It really is more compliment then help. They both share many things from suburbs to attractions. Not to mention, in physical size, DFW and Houston are identical.