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Hahahahaha! Oh man. Maybe 30 years ago, but in 2020 this is not a school that markets itself to the “Everyman”.
That’s why include Umass Boston on my list. But I think Northeastern and BU are desirable colleges that any good student would aspire to go to. They don’t feel to seem so inaccessible. BC has much ore of that elitist vibe.
The actually “Everyman” schools in the Boston area are Salem State, UMASS Boston, Bridgewater State, UMASS Lowell, and UMASS Dartmouth. Not very sexy
*MIT feels explicitly Cambridge and worldly...idk. Doesn’t seem to associate with the city of Boston as much as Harvard. D3 athletics also kill the pride notion
We’re clearly talking metro areas (‘metropolis’). This isn’t about is Cambridge distinct from Bsoton or what native Bostonians think about local boundaries. Give it a rest and keep it on the other thread.
That’s why include Umass Boston on my list. But I think Northeastern and BU are desirable colleges that any good student would aspire to go to. They don’t feel to seem so inaccessible. BC has much ore of that elitist vibe.
The actually “Everyman” schools in the Boston area are Salem State, UMASS Boston, Bridgewater State, UMASS Lowell, and UMASS Dartmouth. Not very sexy
FWIW, Temple has also made a concerted effort to up the quality of its student body in the years since I got recruitment materials from the school in the 1970s. I don't think they've quite reached the 1430* average SAT level of Northeastern, but they're in the neighborhood.
These schools may no longer be "universities for Everyman," but that was their heritage.
Architectural aside: The first buildings on both the present-day Boston University and Northeastern campuses were begun in the same year: 1938. I much prefer Northeastern's Bauhaus campus to BU's factories-with-Gothic-tack-ons.
*1430? I thought the scores on the new, improved, three-part SAT went up to 2400. Back when I was in high school, my 1450 combined (out of 1600) was good enough to get me into Harvard, Yale, Brown and Chicago.
This is just my own experience- I live in NOLA but am from PHX area and Memphis area.
When in NOLA it really depends. Usually, folks will think you're attending Tulane or Loyola, sometimes, but rarely, UNO or Xavier.
Very few people I talk to know Tulane is in NOLA for some reason... At least when I'm visiting people in the Southwest.
For Memphis it is Memphis, followed closely by Rhodes or Ole Miss depending on where you are from/how you talk and some other factors...
For PHX, I assume it has to be ASU.
FWIW, Temple has also made a concerted effort to up the quality of its student body in the years since I got recruitment materials from the school in the 1970s. I don't think they've quite reached the 1430* average SAT level of Northeastern, but they're in the neighborhood.
These schools may no longer be "universities for Everyman," but that was their heritage.
Architectural aside: The first buildings on both the present-day Boston University and Northeastern campuses were begun in the same year: 1938. I much prefer Northeastern's Bauhaus campus to BU's factories-with-Gothic-tack-ons.
*1430? I thought the scores on the new, improved, three-part SAT went up to 2400. Back when I was in high school, my 1450 combined (out of 1600) was good enough to get me into Harvard, Yale, Brown and Chicago.
It’s back down to 1600 so a 1430 is incredibly high. Temple like Philly is a few years behind in its transformation when compare to its ~counterpart in New England.
But let’s say an Everyman university has 20% Pell Grant students. Northeastern is 12% Pell Grant. Temple is 32%. Temple is a greater Everyman school.
The only public university in Boston city with over 20% Pell Grant students is UMASS Boston at 40%. All UMASS or State university school in the Boston metro are at least 30% Pell Grant students. None of the major private universities in the core is above 15%.
Wentworth
Simmons
Suffolk these are the schools that UMASS Boston is competing with for the Everyman school, it’s a clear winner by the arbitrary 20% Pell Grant Student standard
For Chicago, for everyday Chicagoans it would probably be UIC (Univerity of Illinois Chicago), Loyola, or DePaul. In terms of rank/reputation obviously University of Chicago is top, but it's doesn't really have a "Chicago" identity like UIC/Loyola/DePaul. Northwestern (if you consider it Chicago because some of its schools- namely the medical school- are in Chicago) would be right behind Univerity of Chicago (or maybe ahead if you consider Big Ten sports), but even it doesn't really have the "Chicago" identity of the previous 3.
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