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Cleveland, like Toronto has thousands of attached homes per the U.S. Census. Eastern seaboard cities tend to have hundreds of thousands of such homes.
Toronto is demographically much like Queens, NY, but doesn't really look like Queens.
Show me some of those thousands of attached homes in Cleveland. Obviously "attached homes" per the U.S. census doesn't necessarily mean traditional rowhouses in the way that most urban enthusiasts would picture them. I'm sure Cleveland has some rows, but they are not nearly as prevalent as they are in old Toronto. Not even close. Cleveland's old residential neighbourhoods are dominated by wood frame housing and look much more sparce and spaced out than Toronto's dense, old brick neighbourhoods.
There's no doubt that Toronto is among the top when it comes to high rises in North America. But I think those links further prove that Toronto is rather similar to Midwestern cities, than NYC.
These were blocks outside of the streets you posted.
There's no doubt that Toronto is among the top when it comes to high rises in North America. But I think those links further prove that Toronto is rather similar to Midwestern cities, than NYC.
These were blocks outside of the streets you posted.
Granted I still think two of those Toronto links are Urban, in comparison to NYC, they're not as dense or compact.
Those pictures of NYC you posted are far more like Montreal than Toronto.
Montreal definately has more of an East Coast vibe than Toronto which just seems so much more Midwestern even though it is also uniquely Canadian as well.
Those pictures of NYC you posted are far more like Montreal than Toronto.
Montreal definately has more of an East Coast vibe than Toronto which just seems so much more Midwestern even though it is also uniquely Canadian as well.
Between the two, of the NYC boroughs, Montreal is more similar to Brooklyn, Toronto to Queens.
But yes, Montreal is obviously less "Midwestern" than Toronto.
Yeah, those pics don't look anything like NYC, or really anywhere along the East Coast.
They look exactly like a typical Midwestern U.S. city, except with far more 1960's-era highrise residentials, which makes sense, as Toronto boomed exactly when Midwest U.S. cities declined. You remove the highrises, and you basically have a bigger Milwaukee or Cleveland (at street level, at least)
Those 1960's-era high-rise residential buildings are a major characteristic of Toronto though, over 1000 across the city. So how can Toronto look like a typical Midwestern U.S. city when the midwest cities don't have hundreds and hundreds of high-rises?
On the other hand, Toronto doesn't look like a east coast city either. Toronto looks like..................Toronto. If you really want to compare Toronto to another city, you have to look at other cities in Ontario- Hamilton, Ottawa, London.
So I've literally just spent the last 10 minutes or so on Google Maps randomly clicking areas in both Cleveland and Chicago and cannot find anything that resembles Toronto -- at least residentially.
Chicago and Cleveland seem to rely heavily on vinyl siding and/or wooden plank homes with front slanted roofs and "boxed" front patio/verandas. I've never seen a neighborhood like that anywhere in Toronto with those kinds of homes.
Toronto relies on dark brick facade homes that are tall and narrow and have pointed roofs. Toronto also has the distinct "bay-and-gable" style home that was birthed directly out of the Gothic Revival in the North Eastern United States at the turn of the century...
Toronto also seems to have a lot more avenues with buildings that are extremely close to the road. This is rarer in the Midwest but very common in Philly, NYC, etc. Many of the town-homes in the Dundas area between Bathurst and Jarvis have now been converted into businesses that look like carbon copies of an east Philly one way street.
Sorry..But comparing American Cities to Toronto will always lead to a "FALSE NARRATIVE"...while Cities may appear similar by appearance..the people who live in Toronto do NOT live under the same contraint's..
In other words..Canadians do not have to fear LE oppressions as WE do have avenues ..meantime American LE get passes for obvious biased treatments of citizens!! American's HATE and often complain Canada is far too Socialistic..so Hey..Complain all you wish..but regardless of who your are, where you come from, colour of your skin..WE ALL have RIGHTS..and being shot by POLICE is never accepted and exonerated here!!
I know this thread is all about structure..BUT the under-theme is comparing lifestyle and freedom or worse suggesting one side is better than the other. Point is..Structures do NOT say anything..they are inanimate..So what is OP actually asking ???
IS op asking what's in common..Physically SAME..Civilians NOTHING..Thought I would add this~~ Even tho our civilians are made up of similar populations..It appears Politics south of 49th parallel differs greatly!!
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