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Old 05-03-2017, 05:47 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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I absolutely love Chicago and I work in NYC and what Fitzrovian says is spot on. Chicago is a BIG city but NYC is a beast, it's three times the size in population and not many places in the world can say they can match 15-20 miles of solid concrete and humanity so it's not an insult on any level.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Queens, New York City looking toward Manhattan

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Old 05-03-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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I like Manhattan for streets like this

I lived in Manhattan last summer for work, fun experience but it is a grind! Also extremely expense.

The view I had in Midtown lol.
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Staying in DT Chicago along the river this summer for a mini-vacation. I am excited.
You won't find the block after block of gritty Tenements with exposed fire escapes as your pictures show, in Chicago. The closest is the few blocks of Printers Row lofts in the loop. Of some oldest skyscrapers converted to loft living. Other areas of warehouses to lofts could?

But After the Great Chicago fire of 1871. The choices to rebuild thru New "Second City" became a resounding? No tenement-style in Chicago. Even Row housing it gained some early and general high-end. But that was shunned to then.

Chicago's street-grid also became standard with set-backs of the housing in neighborhoods so housing to the sidewalk/street is primarily on main streets. Alleys standard too.

Chicago's original DOWNTOWN the Loop has TENEMENT level living (1st 5 pictures) and look .Printers Row (1st picture is CLOSEST. River North neighborhood has warehousing to Lofts tenement aspects (LAST picture). Once you leave the core Lower level living Chicago is NOT Many stories of Tenements I prevented. NEXT TO LAST picture is in the Loop again.

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Old 05-03-2017, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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It doesn't.

I wouldn't compare them. It is too one sided. One of them is vastly larger and far more encompassing (IMO superior). Imagine buying a car and after the first week you really begin to take in all of its features and truly appreciate all it has to offer. You're just starting to enjoy it. Then next week your sister buys a new car, advertised to have the same advantages that your car has, but after you get in the car you immediately realize that everything about your sister's car is truly great, whereas your car is just good by contrast.

Chicago has the second best downtown in America but that doesn't really help it stack up to #1. Chicago's downtown should be compared to Toronto or San Francisco or the like, as they are Chicago's peers and in the same general weight class, instead of New York. New York's core would stack up better in comparison with Paris or London.
I've been to San Francisco.
It's downtown doesn't compare to Chicago.
Please don't put Chicago on the same tier.
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Old 05-03-2017, 07:39 PM
 
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You won't find the block after block of gritty Tenements with exposed fire escapes as your pictures show, in Chicago. The closest is the few blocks of Printers Row lofts in the loop. Of some oldest skyscrapers converted to loft living. Other areas of warehouses to lofts could?

But After the Great Chicago fire of 1871. The choices to rebuild thru New "Second City" became a resounding? No tenement-style in Chicago. Even Row housing it gained some early and general high-end. But that was shunned to then.

Chicago's street-grid also became standard with set-backs of the housing in neighborhoods so housing to the sidewalk/street is primarily on main streets. Alleys standard too.

Chicago's original DOWNTOWN the Loop has TENEMENT level living (1st 5 pictures) and look .Printers Row (1st picture is CLOSEST. River North neighborhood has warehousing to Lofts tenement aspects (LAST picture). Once you leave the core Lower level living Chicago is NOT Many stories of Tenements I prevented. NEXT TO LAST picture is in the Loop again.

That shot of the El Train in downtown in downtown Chicago is cool.
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Old 05-03-2017, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You won't find the block after block of gritty Tenements with exposed fire escapes as your pictures show, in Chicago. The closest is the few blocks of Printers Row lofts in the loop. Of some oldest skyscrapers converted to loft living. Other areas of warehouses to lofts could?

But After the Great Chicago fire of 1871. The choices to rebuild thru New "Second City" became a resounding? No tenement-style in Chicago. Even Row housing it gained some early and general high-end. But that was shunned to then.

Chicago's street-grid also became standard with set-backs of the housing in neighborhoods so housing to the sidewalk/street is primarily on main streets. Alleys standard too.

Chicago's original DOWNTOWN the Loop has TENEMENT level living (1st 5 pictures) and look .Printers Row (1st picture is CLOSEST. River North neighborhood has warehousing to Lofts tenement aspects (LAST picture). Once you leave the core Lower level living Chicago is NOT Many stories of Tenements I prevented. NEXT TO LAST picture is in the Loop again.
Yeah. Chicago's residential neighborhoods are more on par with Detroit or St.Louis.
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Old 05-03-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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All very important, in this world we live in. People need to get some perspective. Please tell me, how is this important, in the scheme of things.
Nice deflection
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Old 05-03-2017, 11:20 PM
 
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I like Manhattan for streets like this



I lived in Manhattan last summer for work, fun experience but it is a grind! Also extremely expense.

The view I had in Midtown lol.


Family Member's apartment downtown:
Just beautiful, and it goes on like that seemingly forever, all bustling with activity block after block.
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Old 05-03-2017, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Manhattan!
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You won't find the block after block of gritty Tenements with exposed fire escapes as your pictures show, in Chicago. The closest is the few blocks of Printers Row lofts in the loop. Of some oldest skyscrapers converted to loft living. Other areas of warehouses to lofts could?

But After the Great Chicago fire of 1871. The choices to rebuild thru New "Second City" became a resounding? No tenement-style in Chicago. Even Row housing it gained some early and general high-end. But that was shunned to then.

Chicago's street-grid also became standard with set-backs of the housing in neighborhoods so housing to the sidewalk/street is primarily on main streets. Alleys standard too.

Chicago's original DOWNTOWN the Loop has TENEMENT level living (1st 5 pictures) and look .Printers Row (1st picture is CLOSEST. River North neighborhood has warehousing to Lofts tenement aspects (LAST picture). Once you leave the core Lower level living Chicago is NOT Many stories of Tenements I prevented. NEXT TO LAST picture is in the Loop again.
I love those tenement buildings with the fire escapes! I've always wanted to live in one of those. I've never once had a fire escape in my life, and I've lived in at least 5 different locations across Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens.

Those things are basically like balconies for people that can't afford apartments with actual balconies. I had a friend that used to live in LES and had one of those fire escapes. Lots of good times were had on that fire escape. There's nothing like sitting out on the fire escape in the Summer, playing music, having a couple beers, a smoke sesh, and just watching all the people on the streets walk by.
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Old 05-03-2017, 11:43 PM
 
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I like Manhattan for streets like this



I lived in Manhattan last summer for work, fun experience but it is a grind! Also extremely expense.

The view I had in Midtown lol.


Family Member's apartment downtown:


Staying in DT Chicago along the river this summer for a mini-vacation. I am excited.
Agreed, they have lots of character
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