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Fayette strikes me as being more similar to Prince William County, VA or maybe even Howard County, MD. Both have high HHIs relative to the nation, but neither have a zip code that's among the highest income zips in their respective regions. In other words, there's nowhere there that would be considered on par with a Chevy Chase or Dunwoody, but they also lack the equivalent of some of the poorer parts of a MoCo, MD, Dekalb or Fulton.
This is to some extent reflected in median home values.
Potomac, MD - $889,800
Bethesda, MD - $885,800
Burke, VA - $497,400
Olney, MD - $482,800
Brookhaven, GA - $385,600
Decatur, GA - $384,300
Dunwoody, GA - $381,500
John's Creek, GA - $348,600
Alpharetta - $344,100
Peachtree City, GA - $287,100
Tyrone, GA - $238,700
Fayetteville, GA - $183,400
A place like Howard County has higher median HHIs not so much because the affluent choose to live there, but rather because exclusionary zoning keeps more poor people out.
Prince William County does have Montclair, VA which has a lot upper middle class retired folks but I don't even know if I would still compare it to Chevy Chase.
I've always found PWC interesting because it's the one county in NoVa where the poor and wealthy live right next to each other. You will see old apartment buildings next to luxury TH or SFHs. It's... interesting. In other parts of NoVa, the two are very isolated from each other.
Fayette strikes me as being more similar to Prince William County, VA or maybe even Howard County, MD. Both have high HHIs relative to the nation, but neither have a zip code that's among the highest income zips in their respective regions. In other words, there's nowhere there that would be considered on par with a Chevy Chase or Dunwoody, but they also lack the equivalent of some of the poorer parts of a MoCo, MD, Dekalb or Fulton.
This is to some extent reflected in median home values.
Potomac, MD - $889,800
Bethesda, MD - $885,800
Burke, VA - $497,400
Olney, MD - $482,800
Brookhaven, GA - $385,600
Decatur, GA - $384,300
Dunwoody, GA - $381,500
John's Creek, GA - $348,600
Alpharetta - $344,100
Peachtree City, GA - $287,100
Tyrone, GA - $238,700
Fayetteville, GA - $183,400
A place like Howard County has higher median HHIs not so much because the affluent choose to live there, but rather because exclusionary zoning keeps more poor people out.
And I've heard that Fayette County does have that type zoning in place also. I just say the county as a whole could be considered affluent for metro Atlanta based on the median HHI. But outside of that (and the city of Atlanta), what comes to mind when I think affluent is East Cobb, Milton, Alpharetta, John's Creek, Peachtree Corners, and southern Forsyth County. Southern Forsyth is actually killing the game right now.
So in other words they see you as a lame or something?
Yeah pretty much. It seems to be really bad here in the DC area from what I have experienced. I often get excluded from circles and that isn't from not trying. If you aren't part of some greek organization or part of a megachurch you just won't cut it.
Yeah pretty much. It seems to be really bad here in the DC area from what I have experienced. I often get excluded from circles and that isn't from not trying. If you aren't part of some greek organization or part of a megachurch you just won't cut it.
That's disgusting that you have to deal with that.
One thing I noticed about the DC suburbs a few days ago is that it's the only place I've ever seen where Black HHI is higher than White HHI in an affluent, majority-white suburb.
Towns like Darien, CT and Short Hills, NJ did not register a large enough sample for the Census to provide income figures for Black households.
Not to sidetrack the thread, but I think you can find similar examples in other areas of the country relative to the area they are in. It may be a matter of such places being not as well known. I dare say that there is/was in recent years one such zip code not too far from me(13104).
One thing I noticed about the DC suburbs a few days ago is that it's the only place I've ever seen where Black HHI is higher than White HHI in an affluent, majority-white suburb.
Towns like Darien, CT and Short Hills, NJ did not register a large enough sample for the Census to provide income figures for Black households.
Not to sidetrack the thread, but I think you can find similar examples in other areas of the country relative to the area they are in. It may be a matter of such places being not as well known. I dare say that there is/was in recent years one such zip code not too far from me(13104). So, while that is a different thread, I think that there may be more of these types of zip codes than we think there are.
As much as ppl don’t want to acknowledge, a good bit of this flashy money that comes through Atlanta is “street” money. And if you think this is silly, look up BMF, the amount of money they accumulated and why they chose Atlanta. There is still a lot of this here:
So, while on paper it appears that DC blacks should be more visible in their luxury spending, this doesn’t account for big time card crackers and drug dealers. Atlanta is a logistics hub and Georgia is hotbed for fraud/scams, lots of that illegal trade happens here.
And before anyone tries to twist my words, clearly there are hard working middle class and rich black folks that make a killing the honest way, but given that hustling is still a thing in our communities, and Atlanta being what it is these days in brand for black ppl —black Hollywood (along with other things mentioned above) lures in this type of crowd over DC.
You know I've always heard that people that come from nothing and become rich are more cautious with their money because they had to work so hard for it. I don't believe that's true. My parents came from nothing and when they hit it big, they spent like crazy. Part of the reason was because they knew more money was coming in, another was they wanted their peers to know they made it. It was kind of scary.
You know I've always heard that people that come from nothing and become rich are more cautious with their money because they had to work so hard for it. I don't believe that's true. My parents came from nothing and when they hit it big, they spent like crazy. Part of the reason was because they knew more money was coming in, another was they wanted their peers to know they made it. It was kind of scary.
They put a target on their backs by doing that.
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