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Providence msa is basically the same size as Milwaukee msa. Providence is much closer to Boston than Milwaukee to chicago but is very much independent..
Chicago combined statistical area 9.8 million in 10600 square miles
Boston combined statistical area 8.4 million in 9700 square miles
Milwaukee's MSA is about 400,000 more. That's not the same. Milwaukee has professional sports, and a city proper population of over 500,000...not quite the same. Chicago is an Alpha city, Boston an Alpha minus. Just a couple different differences than you noted.
Milwaukee's MSA is about 400,000 more. That's not the same. Milwaukee has professional sports, and a city proper population of over 500,000...not quite the same. Chicago is an Alpha city, Boston an Alpha minus. Just a couple different differences than you noted.
Wouldn’t that be a pro-Boston is quite important argument that it totally subjugates pretty substantial nearby cities (Even Worcester’s metro is nearly 1 million) while Milwaukee is a strong standalone town?
When has CSA been the standard for determining population? Everything I've read, it's MSA...except when CSA is needed to boost a city's population to make it more competitive. That's when I see CSA used.
Wouldn’t that be a pro-Boston is quite important argument that it totally subjugates pretty substantial nearby cities (Even Worcester’s metro is nearly 1 million) while Milwaukee is a strong standalone town?
Not sure what you're trying to do here. Boston is not Chicago, and Chicago is not NYC....kind of plain and simple.
When has CSA been the standard for determining population? Everything I've read, it's MSA...except when CSA is needed to boost a city's population to make it more competitive. That's when I see CSA used.
CSA’s are largely not useful to determine the size of the city, but it does tell you the sphere of Influence which does impact things like touring acts, pro sports, and other amenities etc. so if you’re trying to determine a cities importance CSA’s aren’t totally worthless.
For example the Bruins are a large market team largely because Providence contributes more raw viewers than the Dallas market does for Dallas or the Tampa market has in total as much so as because they’re popular in Boston.
But Providence it’s relationship with Boston’s is strong enough to be in its CSA Providence doesn’t have an NHL team because it’s subjugated by Boston even though it clearly isn’t Boston.
Milwaukee stands alone as a city, next to Chicago. Clearly, Milwaukee is more of a major city on its own than Hartford or Portland. So proximity is the same, but Chicago doesn't count Milwaukee, as Milwaukee residents usually work in Milwaukee. It's interesting that distance is the same, and the combined population of Milwaukee and Chicago is far more than that of Boston, that does combine with similar distance cities....because Hartford and Providence residents need Boston, more than Milwaukee needs Chicago.
no sir. If the Boston MSA included Hartford it would be 8.7 M people. Hartford is much more independent than Providence and anchors its own CSA that abuts Bostons.... Hartford is pretty close to Milwaukee as an MSA, and honestly. Providence is a larger MSA than Milwaukee. Hartford probably has a larger GDP or very close to it.
Milwaukee's MSA is about 400,000 more. That's not the same. Milwaukee has professional sports, and a city proper population of over 500,000...not quite the same. Chicago is an Alpha city, Boston an Alpha minus. Just a couple different differences than you noted.
Providence msa is basically the same size as Milwaukee msa. Providence is much closer to Boston than Milwaukee to chicago but is very much independent..
Chicago combined statistical area 9.8 million in 10600 square miles
Boston combined statistical area 8.4 million in 9700 square miles
Nyc combined statistical area 23 million in 12000 sq miles
I dont even know how independent it really is in this day and age. Providence cant even cover its own new via the ProJo anymore. Boston GLobe has much more in depth coverage via it Rhode Island Bureau.
Add to this two of Providence's main minor league teams were/are The Pawtucket PawSox and the Providence Bruins, which copy the Boston bruins logo and colors. So it's really not that independent. Indeed its Airport is served by the MBTA. And it gets much Boston media. COmpared to Baltimore or Milwaukee its not that independent, really. The economy isnt there.
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