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View Poll Results: Which is closer to Chicago?
Boston 71 23.20%
New York 145 47.39%
Right in the middle 90 29.41%
Voters: 306. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-04-2023, 05:49 PM
 
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No genius….you are obviously not sure what I meant . It was a sarcastic response, but I was making an argument FOR Providence, not taking a shot at it!

The poster I was responding to seemed to imply that it was an unfair comparison to point out that Providence MSA has 60,000 more people than Milwaukee MSA because it includes 2 states. I am pointing out that exactly what you said, that NE states are much smaller in terms of land size, so saying that it’s not a fair comparison because Providence MSA includes 2 states doesn’t hold water because the states are much smaller in the NE.

I’m not sure why you decided to take a shot at Illinois and throw it into the conversation when it wasn’t being discussed
My fault. Misinterpreted. I don’t have anything against Illinois.

 
Old 02-07-2023, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Chicago is closer to New York than Boston.

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No but Chicago is more like Boston than New York in my opinion
Just the energy, the subway system, the diversity, the entertainment and famous African Americans prove this is not true. At all.
 
Old 02-07-2023, 11:59 AM
 
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Chicago is closer to New York than Boston.



Just the energy, the subway system, the diversity, the entertainment and famous African Americans prove this is not true. At all.
Subways? (According to Wikipedia) 2019 Ridership/length
(For some reason the APTA is way lower than the MBTA numbers it reports)
Boston MBTA subway: 613,000 52 miles

The ‘L”: 675,000. 102 miles

MTA +PATH 9.4 million, 251 miles

Yeah it’s not even close.

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Old 02-07-2023, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by btownboss4 View Post
Subways? (According to Wikipedia) 2019 Ridership/length
(For some reason the APTA is way lower than the MBTA numbers it reports)
Boston MBTA: 613,000 52 miles

The ‘L”: 675,000. 102 miles

MTA +PATH 9.4 million, 251 miles

Yeah it’s not even close.
Interesting...2019 was pre-pandemic and Chicago was (before the pandemic) pretty consistently near the tops in terms of ridership. It may (and likely is) a different story now.

But I'm not sure I fully understand the comparison The "L" is just the city train and subway (downtown).

"Metra" is the large commuter rail across Chicagoland. Do they show "L" + "Metra" combined numbers?
 
Old 02-07-2023, 12:18 PM
 
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Chicago is closer to New York than Boston.



Just the energy, the subway system, the diversity, the entertainment and famous African Americans prove this is not true. At all.
I don't know if it's "closer", but the energy and entertainment I would definitely agree with.
 
Old 02-07-2023, 12:21 PM
 
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Interesting...2019 was pre-pandemic and Chicago was (before the pandemic) pretty consistently near the tops in terms of ridership. It may (and likely is) a different story now.

But I'm not sure I fully understand the comparison The "L" is just the city train and subway (downtown).

"Metra" is the large commuter rail across Chicagoland. Do they show "L" + "Metra" combined numbers?
That was the MBTA Subway (4 lines) not the system, the system is ~1.2 million per day
 
Old 02-07-2023, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Chicago is closer to New York than Boston.



Just the energy, the subway system, the diversity, the entertainment and famous African Americans prove this is not true. At all.
So everything said here was feels. That’s fine but it “proves” nothing
 
Old 02-07-2023, 12:40 PM
 
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So everything said here was feels. That’s fine but it “proves” nothing
Why does something need to be "proved" to you? The "feel" (aka vibe) does mean something, and entertainment also means something.
 
Old 02-07-2023, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Why does something need to be "proved" to you? The "feel" (aka vibe) does mean something, and entertainment also means something.
He used the word prove. It does not prove. The proof really proves otherwise.


if I were really being tedious I could probably disprove the majority of those feels. Like what was done for the train.
 
Old 02-07-2023, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I account for Vibes when I say it’s right in the middle because the honest empirical truth is is much closer to Boston.

So I do account for it. But I’m also not going to ignore factual reality that heavily/blatantly.
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