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No. This is not about how NYC compares, and of course it makes sense that it's even more common in NYC where it's even more different. I also mentioned Los Angeles itself as a place where you will meet people who say it is not a real city but a collection of suburbs. How radically different is LA from LA in its transit share, SFH composition, car ownership rates etc on a metropolitan level? That was a trick question. They are the same.
The overarching point was that the criticism of LA being a large collection of suburbs isn't remotely close to exclusive to Chicagoan. That criticism of LA is not unique to Chicago whatsoever and so it's pretty toothless as a point to make about Chicago's supposed navel-gazing or insecurity.
I absolutely agree that basically every city not NYC in the US has underwhelming transit and NYC only, uh, whelms. Citing that criticism of LA though is silly especially as there are certainly people for undergrad, grad school, or work who have gone between Boston and LA and have said the same. It is not a useful point to make.
The main point is Chicagoans are absolutely not wedded to the official list of city proper populations. They will in fact tell you that they live in the eye 2nd city, and their city is on a whole different tier than Houston abd that Northwestern is a Chicago school etc.
Yeah I got a little confused at that too....and there's there's the whole part about Cambridge being a "business district", whereas Beverly Hills wouldn't be?
CBD in Cambridge is a huge portion of the Boston area GDP and adjacent to downtown Cbd
Cambridge is part of the Boston city subway 6 stops including heavy rain as is somerville
Are you sure about the bolded part? In my opinion city proper is way more of a defining feature in NYC than in California cities. The subway stops at the city limits. In my experience NYC residents are very opinionated about which parts of the metro are "NYC" versus everywhere else. It's a very clear distinction. Boroughs may even be more of a defining feature in NYC than cities are in California. Are you sure that the disconnect is in California?
The subway doesn’t stop at the city limits in Boston
Cambridge has 6 subway stops on red and green line including heavy rail.
Somerville has more than 5 stops on red green and orange lines including heavy rail
Brookline has a number of stops on the green line.
Newton also has green line stops.
Quincy has a red line stop
The subway doesn’t stop at the city limits in Boston
Cambridge has 6 subway stops including heavy rail on green and red lines.
Somerville has more than 5 stops including heavy rail on green and red lines.
Brookline has a number of stops on the green line.
Newton also has green line stops.
Beverly Hills will have its own LA Metro subway station in two years. They have LA Metro BRT right now.
The part of Beverly Hills that looks suburban is shown to the public to showcase the lifestyles of the rich and famous.
Chicago is somewhat of an island, with no obvious peers. It's not what it once was, but it just seems too big in both size and image to lump into a lower peer group. So I'll apply what I call the "Average Joe" test of big cities.
If Average Joe from Anytown, USA felt out of options, down to his last move, and was going to withdraw the $1100 dollars he has to his name and buy a bus ticket to a city to try and make it on a wing and prayer, would it make more sense to choose A) Boston, or B) Chicago?
Obviously this is just a way to measure economic diversity, but the Average Joe test, IMO, is what separates the truly big cities from the rest of the pack, and IMO, there are only three cities that pass this test today.
Chicago is somewhat of an island, with no obvious peers. It's not what it once was, but it just seems too big in both size and image to lump into a lower peer group. So I'll apply what I call the "Average Joe" test of big cities.
If Average Joe from Anytown, USA felt out of options, down to his last move, and was going to withdraw the $1100 dollars he has to his name and buy a bus ticket to a city to try and make it on a wing and prayer, would it make more sense to choose A) Boston, or B) Chicago?
Obviously this is just a way to measure economic diversity, but the Average Joe test, IMO, is what separates the truly big cities from the rest of the pack, and IMO, there are only three cities that pass this test today.
Based on migration trends, the answer isn’t Chicago, and hasn’t been since maybe 1985
Chicago is somewhat of an island, with no obvious peers. It's not what it once was, but it just seems too big in both size and image to lump into a lower peer group. So I'll apply what I call the "Average Joe" test of big cities.
If Average Joe from Anytown, USA felt out of options, down to his last move, and was going to withdraw the $1100 dollars he has to his name and buy a bus ticket to a city to try and make it on a wing and prayer, would it make more sense to choose A) Boston, or B) Chicago?
Obviously this is just a way to measure economic diversity, but the Average Joe test, IMO, is what separates the truly big cities from the rest of the pack, and IMO, there are only three cities that pass this test today.
You must not be a scientist
A majority of objective measures place chicago closer to Boston or at the least I could listen to an argument in the middle
All these wing and a prayer questions just don’t do it for me but to each your own
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